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Based on my experiences with non-recognized tribes of other affiliations, I'd be willing to best that a lot of those "fraudulent" groups are legitimate Native A
by jnbiche 11y ago
Based on my experiences with non-recognized tribes of other affiliations, I'd be willing to best that a lot of those "fraudulent" groups are legitimate Native American tribes, or at the very least organized groups of people with shared Native American ancestry, but ones that are not officially recognized by the US Government.
Yes, there are fake tribes that come out of the woodwork hoping to gain casino rights, but many if not most of these non-recognized groups often accused of being fraudulent have verifiable histories going back 100 or more years, and have been studied by historians and anthropologists (with publications to prove it). It's a shame that such groups are denied the recognition they deserve, even after all that has happened in this country.
- plonh 11y agoIt is also a shame that casino rights is the form of recognition they seek.
- glesica 11y agoIt's a shame that casino rights is the only meaningful form of recognition being offered...
- hugh4 11y agoAnd I think it's a shame that anyone thinks they deserve "recognition" based on who their ancestors were.
- protomyth 11y agoThat is definitely not true. Federal recognition brings a host of abilities for a people to organize including the ability to form a government and other institutions.
- jnbiche 11y agoIt's a shame that there's no form of recognition that doesn't involve casino rights. In fact, there is no official "casino rights" recognition to seek, it's just an often unwanted right that comes along with federal tribal recognition. So many tribes, who want other educational and or commercial benefits that come with federal recognition (like being able to label their art/crafts "Indian-made"), or who simply want the recognition due to them for reasons of ethnic pride, have to face opposition from big casino corporations worried that some tribal leader in the future might propose a casino. There should be a form of federal recognition by BIA that doesn't involve casino rights, that's the easiest solution (although unlikely to happen for legal reasons).
- protomyth 11y agoTechnically there are some states that refuse to sign compacts with the tribes. It's a myth its automatic. Further, some states (e.g. North Dakota) do not allow direct payment to tribal members and require the money go to social service programs. I am getting a bit sick of all the FUD in this area.
- jnbiche 11y agoWhat? FUD? There are a few state exceptions (as there are to just about any US intersection of state and federal law) to what I wrote and you call it FUD? The fact is, for those states that do give federally-recognized tribes casino rights (ie, most of them), there is not way for a tribe to forfeit that right. How in the world is that a "myth" or "FUD"? Look, I can understand why you got irritated at the other statement above (of course federal recognition brings benefits other than casino rights!), but I have no idea what you would call this fact a "myth". If you're pointing out that this would have to come from the states, and not the federal government, then it's a good point (that's what I was referring to my "legal reasons"). But why call this "FUD"?