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>true MS shops will user Hyper-V and true OS shops Xen That is not entirely true. I'm installing a lot of VMWare systems at "true" MS shops, which choose VM fo

by Nemo999 17y ago

>true MS shops will user Hyper-V and true OS shops Xen That is not entirely true. I'm installing a lot of VMWare systems at "true" MS shops, which choose VM for the same reason as MS (market leader, no one ever got fired... etc.) where hyper-V is still perceived as immature product. In MS shops license cost usually is not the decisive factor, and VMware is perceived as the best technology(aksi the most expensive). It is true a lot of those places run Hyper-V as well, but they don't usually host production systems on it. My take on it is: MS is quite good at making development tools, Exchange, Sharepoint, systems management software etc. (generaly high level stuff) The further they are kept from the hardware the better. Most people employed by MS shops know that intuitively and they welcome the opportunity to buffer MS software from the hardware even if it costs $10k per CPU license.

whatusername 17y ago
Sure - I should have prefaced that with some. I've seen a couple of Hyper-V installations, but I'm pretty sure I haven't seen one running linux clients (despite the code MS put into the kernel). I'm sure they exist - but for now Hyper-V is just a pure-MS play (and still behind VMWare at that). Don't forget - MS really take a few iterations before their products begin to shine. The X360 (barring H/W issues) is a really nice piece of kit, Office took a few versions but by 5/6 was really pretty good. Windows 3.1 was when Windows started to work (although really you could declare that at a major release later 95). And XP SP2 And Vista SP2 (aka Win7) were when the OS really started to shine. Bottom line - Don't count MS out when they really put their mind to something.
hboon 17y ago
Aren't compilers close to the hardware? (you might be referring to web development tools, but they build VMs too). And SharePoint is hardly good software.

by Nemo999 17y ago

whatusername 17y ago

Sure - I should have prefaced that with some. I've seen a couple of Hyper-V installations, but I'm pretty sure I haven't seen one running linux clients (despite the code MS put into the kernel). I'm sure they exist - but for now Hyper-V is just a pure-MS play (and still behind VMWare at that). Don't forget - MS really take a few iterations before their products begin to shine. The X360 (barring H/W issues) is a really nice piece of kit, Office took a few versions but by 5/6 was really pretty good. Windows 3.1 was when Windows started to work (although really you could declare that at a major release later 95). And XP SP2 And Vista SP2 (aka Win7) were when the OS really started to shine. Bottom line - Don't count MS out when they really put their mind to something.

hboon 17y ago

Aren't compilers close to the hardware? (you might be referring to web development tools, but they build VMs too). And SharePoint is hardly good software.