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The implication is that thieves will break the windows and snatch whatever they can. Since the police can't break the windows and "hold the contents for safekee

by Zikes 11y ago

The implication is that thieves will break the windows and snatch whatever they can. Since the police can't break the windows and "hold the contents for safekeeping" they have to skip the locked cars.

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mikeash 11y ago
The article says the police will first run the plate and try to contact the owner before they take the stuff. Will they be doing this for locked cars too?
- Zikes 11y ago
  One would hope.
  - mikeash 11y ago
    According to this article, yes: http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/east_rock_car_break_ins/ http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/... Another interesting tidbit from that: you have to show ID to get your stuff back, and you can only pick it up between 9:30AM and 3:30PM on weekdays. Which is pretty unbelievably shitty.
    - chris_wot 11y ago
      And they can sell your stuff after 60 days!
      - dragonwriter 11y ago
        > And they can sell your stuff after 60 days! While there might, somehow, be some arguments that the temporary hold to prevent attracting thieves is neither a deprivation of property without due process (prohibited by the 14th Amendment), nor an unreasonable seizure (prohibited by the 4th Amendment), nor a taking for public use (prohibited by the 5th Amendment) -- though I still think its likely to be at least one of those -- I'm having more trouble seeing even a remote argument for how taking personal property from an unlocked car and selling it, with the proceeds going to the government, can fail to be either a deprivation of property without due process or a taking without just compensation. Moreover, its exactly the same kind of permanent deprivation of the owners property that the policy is notionally supposed to prevent. "In order to stop your stuff from getting stolen, we had to steal it." Really?
dogma1138 11y ago
Not all thieves will break a window, especially if it's in daylight in an open parking lot / or street parking, more likely they might just go around looking for unlocked cars especially in places where people tend to run errands mid day in which case they might leave the car unlocked if they only pop out for 5min. A guy taking something out of the back/front seat isn't as suspicious as some on going around with a crawbar smashing windows. I've seen individuals going around a parking lot actively looking for unlocked cars couple of times in my life usually a blow of a horn scares them off.

by Zikes 11y ago

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mikeash 11y ago

The article says the police will first run the plate and try to contact the owner before they take the stuff. Will they be doing this for locked cars too?

Zikes 11y ago
One would hope.
- mikeash 11y ago
  According to this article, yes: http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/east_rock_car_break_ins/ http://www.newhavenindependent.org/index.php/archives/entry/... Another interesting tidbit from that: you have to show ID to get your stuff back, and you can only pick it up between 9:30AM and 3:30PM on weekdays. Which is pretty unbelievably shitty.
  - chris_wot 11y ago
    And they can sell your stuff after 60 days!
    - dragonwriter 11y ago
      > And they can sell your stuff after 60 days! While there might, somehow, be some arguments that the temporary hold to prevent attracting thieves is neither a deprivation of property without due process (prohibited by the 14th Amendment), nor an unreasonable seizure (prohibited by the 4th Amendment), nor a taking for public use (prohibited by the 5th Amendment) -- though I still think its likely to be at least one of those -- I'm having more trouble seeing even a remote argument for how taking personal property from an unlocked car and selling it, with the proceeds going to the government, can fail to be either a deprivation of property without due process or a taking without just compensation. Moreover, its exactly the same kind of permanent deprivation of the owners property that the policy is notionally supposed to prevent. "In order to stop your stuff from getting stolen, we had to steal it." Really?

dogma1138 11y ago

Not all thieves will break a window, especially if it's in daylight in an open parking lot / or street parking, more likely they might just go around looking for unlocked cars especially in places where people tend to run errands mid day in which case they might leave the car unlocked if they only pop out for 5min. A guy taking something out of the back/front seat isn't as suspicious as some on going around with a crawbar smashing windows. I've seen individuals going around a parking lot actively looking for unlocked cars couple of times in my life usually a blow of a horn scares them off.