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Microsoft did a partnership like this before with Apple (Microsoft Office) but it didn't turn out so well for Apple. Wondering what the outcome would be like wi

Microsoft did a partnership like this before with Apple (Microsoft Office) but it didn't turn out so well for Apple. Wondering what the outcome would be like with Satya in the driver's seat.

riskable 11y ago
A better comparison would be a situation where Microsoft partnered with a company over an operating system... Like IBM with OS/2 which turned out great, right? haha Or let's look at when Microsoft partnered with Novell: http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-makes-linux-pact-with-novell/ http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-makes-linux-pact-with-nov... The byline from that article is classic! "Former software foes pledge to work together to help Windows world and Linux world interoperate." Turned out great for Novell, right? Hah! Does anyone use SuSE anymore? It's market is so tiny it's hard to find statistics for it. Other fun Microsoft partnerships: Nokia, Barnes & Noble, Best Buy, Yahoo, Nortel, Sendo, and probably dozens of smaller companies that came & went or are but a fraction of their former selves. A more interesting thing to track: How is the partnership with Microsoft working out for Docker? I'm really curious what the heck Microsoft is going to do in the next version of Windows Server to actually support realistic containerization.
- jasonjei 11y ago
  Thanks for all the examples where Microsoft pulled a Trojan. I totally agree. If Win32 embraces the Linux kernel calls to make Docker work without virtualization, is there a possible Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish plan? Or are businesses smart enough to avoid a repeat of ActiveX? Microsoft made a pact with Sun back in the day where they would support Java. If memory serves, Microsoft supported a Java that only worked on Win32 using J/Direct calls that natively supported Win32 instead of being OS independent like most Java apps.

Microsoft did a partnership like this before with Apple (Microsoft Office) but it didn't turn out so well for Apple. Wondering what the outcome would be like with Satya in the driver's seat.

riskable 11y ago

A better comparison would be a situation where Microsoft partnered with a company over an operating system... Like IBM with OS/2 which turned out great, right? haha Or let's look at when Microsoft partnered with Novell: http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-makes-linux-pact-with-novell/ http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-makes-linux-pact-with-nov... The byline from that article is classic! "Former software foes pledge to work together to help Windows world and Linux world interoperate." Turned out great for Novell, right? Hah! Does anyone use SuSE anymore? It's market is so tiny it's hard to find statistics for it. Other fun Microsoft partnerships: Nokia, Barnes & Noble, Best Buy, Yahoo, Nortel, Sendo, and probably dozens of smaller companies that came & went or are but a fraction of their former selves. A more interesting thing to track: How is the partnership with Microsoft working out for Docker? I'm really curious what the heck Microsoft is going to do in the next version of Windows Server to actually support realistic containerization.

jasonjei 11y ago
Thanks for all the examples where Microsoft pulled a Trojan. I totally agree. If Win32 embraces the Linux kernel calls to make Docker work without virtualization, is there a possible Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish plan? Or are businesses smart enough to avoid a repeat of ActiveX? Microsoft made a pact with Sun back in the day where they would support Java. If memory serves, Microsoft supported a Java that only worked on Win32 using J/Direct calls that natively supported Win32 instead of being OS independent like most Java apps.