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http://wiki.github.com/tobeytailor/gordon/demos http://wiki.github.com/tobeytailor/gordon/demos The demos are basically graphics tests: vector drawing, frame-by

by chipsy 17y ago

http://wiki.github.com/tobeytailor/gordon/demos http://wiki.github.com/tobeytailor/gordon/demos The demos are basically graphics tests: vector drawing, frame-by-frame animation, tweens. http://wiki.github.com/tobeytailor/gordon/swf-tag-support-table http://wiki.github.com/tobeytailor/gordon/swf-tag-support-ta... The tag support table shows just how much is missing: everything from SWF 2 onwards! Many of those tags aren't feasible in pure JS right now, anyway.

lt 17y ago
Interesting. Those work nicely using Safari on my iPhone. Looks promising. But on Chrome 4.0.288.1 dev moving the mouse over any of the animations crashes the tab.
- judofyr 17y ago
  Interesting. Works fine on 4.0.249.49.
- city41 17y ago
  The demos don't work at all in IE8.
  - gcb 17y ago
    also nothing with opera 10
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  - cakesy 17y ago
    Really? How are they in IE6 and IE4?
- metachor 17y ago
  I have the same experience with Chrome. Mousing over the animation crashes not only the active tab, but all of the tabs in the window.
- ig1 17y ago
  All the demos work fine for me on the Chrome 4.0.288.1 dev.
- njn 17y ago
  works for me in Chromium 4.0.266.0
catch23 17y ago
Also, I think most of the newer SWF files have lots of actionscript bytecode which is something that Gordon probably can't handle unless they implement their own stack-based virtual machine and implement all of the mx.core set of libraries.
- dutchflyboy 17y ago
  It would be possible (a bit slow though). This has already been done a few times with JS. For example, qBasic (http://stevehanov.ca/blog/index.php?id=92 http://stevehanov.ca/blog/index.php?id=92) or even virtualizing a whole device like the gameboy (http://www.codebase.es/jsgb/ http://www.codebase.es/jsgb/).
- sethaurus 17y ago
  A custom virtual machine probably isn't necessary. There are plenty of flash decompilers which can emit AS3 source from bytecode — and since ActionScript 3.0 is basically the old ECMAScript 6 draft spec, it can be trivially downcompiled to plain old Javascript using Mascara (http://ecmascript4.com/ http://ecmascript4.com/). Ideally the conversion would take place on a server-side proxy, and its ouput would subsequently be cached, but it could theoretically be done on the client as well. Re-implementing the standard library remains a major issue, but certainly not insurmountable.

by chipsy 17y ago

lt 17y ago

Interesting. Those work nicely using Safari on my iPhone. Looks promising. But on Chrome 4.0.288.1 dev moving the mouse over any of the animations crashes the tab.

judofyr 17y ago
Interesting. Works fine on 4.0.249.49.
city41 17y ago
The demos don't work at all in IE8.
- gcb 17y ago
  also nothing with opera 10
  - deleted 17y ago
    [deleted]
- cakesy 17y ago
  Really? How are they in IE6 and IE4?
metachor 17y ago
I have the same experience with Chrome. Mousing over the animation crashes not only the active tab, but all of the tabs in the window.
ig1 17y ago
All the demos work fine for me on the Chrome 4.0.288.1 dev.
njn 17y ago
works for me in Chromium 4.0.266.0

catch23 17y ago

Also, I think most of the newer SWF files have lots of actionscript bytecode which is something that Gordon probably can't handle unless they implement their own stack-based virtual machine and implement all of the mx.core set of libraries.

dutchflyboy 17y ago
It would be possible (a bit slow though). This has already been done a few times with JS. For example, qBasic (http://stevehanov.ca/blog/index.php?id=92 http://stevehanov.ca/blog/index.php?id=92) or even virtualizing a whole device like the gameboy (http://www.codebase.es/jsgb/ http://www.codebase.es/jsgb/).
sethaurus 17y ago
A custom virtual machine probably isn't necessary. There are plenty of flash decompilers which can emit AS3 source from bytecode — and since ActionScript 3.0 is basically the old ECMAScript 6 draft spec, it can be trivially downcompiled to plain old Javascript using Mascara (http://ecmascript4.com/ http://ecmascript4.com/). Ideally the conversion would take place on a server-side proxy, and its ouput would subsequently be cached, but it could theoretically be done on the client as well. Re-implementing the standard library remains a major issue, but certainly not insurmountable.