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Progress towards what? For the developing world to get to the basics (rights/health/edu) the developed world is used to, we need a couple more planet earths in

by Sven7 11y ago

Progress towards what? For the developing world to get to the basics (rights/health/edu) the developed world is used to, we need a couple more planet earths in terms of resources. We seem to end up with what happens in nature. Randomness. In one ecosystem a couple of whales and whole lot of plankton, in another a couple lions and herds of wildebeest. So progress towards what? It's not entirely clear. And where are the incentives to produce consensus about it or even focus on it? We can be doing a much better job creating those incentives.

tim333 11y ago
>to the basics (rights/health/edu)... we need a couple more planet earths I don't think that's true. Human rights, health services and education needn't use much resources. The ability the whole planet to drive 3 ton SUVs might be an issue but that's a different matter.
- Sven7 11y ago
  We have been trying to get the basics into the third world for a long time now. It's not cheap because its not easy. I am not even talking about the extreme cases like Somalia and Afghanistan. Even in countries like India and China try getting a good lawyer/policeman/doctor/teacher to stay in areas where they are most needed. They have no hope of any semblance of the lifestyle their urban counterparts enjoy. And I pulled in the couple more planet earths from sustainability calculations Craig Simmons did for the Guardian a while back. http://www.theguardian.com/greenliving/story/0,,441590,00.html http://www.theguardian.com/greenliving/story/0,,441590,00.ht...
wavefunction 11y ago
I saw an article that stated the 1% now own slightly more wealth than the rest of the 99% of the population, so I feel like there are untapped resources just waiting to be put to good use. I don't see the need for this continuing farce when there are infrastructure needs and the opportunity to build real and lasting wealth for all of us in the form of a more developed and inclusive society for all.

by Sven7 11y ago

tim333 11y ago

>to the basics (rights/health/edu)... we need a couple more planet earths I don't think that's true. Human rights, health services and education needn't use much resources. The ability the whole planet to drive 3 ton SUVs might be an issue but that's a different matter.

Sven7 11y ago
We have been trying to get the basics into the third world for a long time now. It's not cheap because its not easy. I am not even talking about the extreme cases like Somalia and Afghanistan. Even in countries like India and China try getting a good lawyer/policeman/doctor/teacher to stay in areas where they are most needed. They have no hope of any semblance of the lifestyle their urban counterparts enjoy. And I pulled in the couple more planet earths from sustainability calculations Craig Simmons did for the Guardian a while back. http://www.theguardian.com/greenliving/story/0,,441590,00.html http://www.theguardian.com/greenliving/story/0,,441590,00.ht...

wavefunction 11y ago

I saw an article that stated the 1% now own slightly more wealth than the rest of the 99% of the population, so I feel like there are untapped resources just waiting to be put to good use. I don't see the need for this continuing farce when there are infrastructure needs and the opportunity to build real and lasting wealth for all of us in the form of a more developed and inclusive society for all.