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I'm a fairly recent convert to Fedora from Arch, and I don't think I'll ever go to another distro as long as they keep up the good work. I even suggest Fedora t

I'm a fairly recent convert to Fedora from Arch, and I don't think I'll ever go to another distro as long as they keep up the good work. I even suggest Fedora to anyone who wants to try out Linux because Fedora is easy to install, doesn't come with a bunch of extra stuff you don't need, dnf is a great package manager, and the default software is the latest stable version. Perfect for people just coming on board, I think. I just downloaded 23 and it worked like a charm. I'm not sure how much this upgrade affects me, but it is nice to see how nothing was lost (maybe it is my illusion, but programs seem to load a bit faster?). Good job to everyone who commits to this project. While I wish Fedora was a rolling release, I'm happy that the upgrade was easy and didn't take very long.

meddlepal 11y ago
Fedora's great! It's been my dev environment now for a couple years.
signa11 11y ago
> I'm a fairly recent convert to Fedora from Arch, and I don't think I'll ever go to another distro... as a fairly long time arch user, may you please describe areas where you find arch to be deficient w.r.t fedora ? i haven't tried using redhat for while, but when i did earlier, i just found rpm, and later yum, to be quite cumbersome to work with. thanks !
- dizzystar 11y ago
  I just find it easier to setup and maintain, really. Philosophically, they are similar, with Fedora being minimal, but you get things like gcc, python, and other items by default, which is nice. Fedora doesn't come with LibreOffice, games, or anything like that. I only used yum on CentOS, and I thought it was okay. Fedora now comes with DNF which is pretty close to pacman. Don't get me wrong, I like Arch a lot still and have no complaints, but I felt like Fedora struck a nice middle ground, and is, by default, very close to how I set up my Arch system anyways, even closer with the LXDE spin. edit to add: I still use the Arch documentation for just about everything. That's one area that no one can say Arch is deficient on.
- dnlrn 11y ago
  I'm also a long time arch user, who switched to fedora half a year ago. All in all both distributions are great, but one area where fedora has an edge is selinux support and delta updates. One area where arch has an edge is better font rendering using infinality-bundle by bohoomil.
zwarag 11y ago
Hold tight, I'ma bout to blow your mind man: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide
carlosrg 11y ago
>the default software is the latest stable version That's debatable. I don't consider the latest upstream versions "stable", no matter what they think - I've been using Linux long enough to know this the hard way. I think for people new to Linux (and for people experienced in Linux that don't like bugs too) a more conservative distro like Ubuntu LTS or Debian works much better in the long run.
- Already__Taken 11y ago
  If I come to linux to try a new way of doing things and get the benefits like a package manager. When I read a blog about some cool new release of software like docker or node and I want it. If `<package manager> install <software>` doesn't get me that and I have to arse around finding sources to add. I'm not saving any effort than just going to get some msi from a website.
  - craigching 11y ago
    Agreed. I used to use so-called "stable" distros for the longest time because that's what our installed software was supported on. But when I couldn't use the latest and greatest development tools (emacs for instance), it became really annoying doing my development. So I switched (from RHEL/CentOS) to Fedora for my day-to-day development. I can't say I've run into any show stopper issues, our software and the supporting software run just fine on it and I'm a happier, more productive developer.
    - favadi 11y ago
      Just curious, why you couldn't use latest emacs in RHEL/CentOS? I think emacs is quite easy to compile.
      - craigching 11y ago
        It's been quite awhile, but, IIRC, glibc incompatibilities in particular as well as other general libraries that weren't easy to build and compile. I make use of a ton of packages that require other current components that weren't available on "stable" releases. Changing hasn't presented any stability problems, so, for me, Fedora has been a good, stable distribution that still lets me use my tools. EDIT: Please note, my experience may or may not relate on CentOS7 or RHEL7, this was more CentOS 5 and early 6 versions where I ran into issues.
RaleyField 11y ago
> because Fedora is easy to install Last time I tried Fedora was the previous version and I found it impossible to install codecs. You have to add third-party repository (rpmfusion), the problem I'm having is the way the repo is authenticated - http website points to a pgp key signed by one Corey Sheldon who appears to be only self-signed, so there is no way to establish chain of trust. I could download the key from multiple sources but I don't feel I should have to and more than that, I don't trust people who to some degree rely on security theatre, which http page pointing to a lonely public key essentially is. It's no better than downloading over plain http and my slight OCD compels me to refuse to do that. I realize this is more a rant about rpmfusion than Fedora, but then I feel essential support for playing various media files should be included within desktop OS.
- mattdm 11y ago
  Please work with your governmental representative on patent reform.

meddlepal 11y ago

Fedora's great! It's been my dev environment now for a couple years.

signa11 11y ago

> I'm a fairly recent convert to Fedora from Arch, and I don't think I'll ever go to another distro... as a fairly long time arch user, may you please describe areas where you find arch to be deficient w.r.t fedora ? i haven't tried using redhat for while, but when i did earlier, i just found rpm, and later yum, to be quite cumbersome to work with. thanks !

dizzystar 11y ago
I just find it easier to setup and maintain, really. Philosophically, they are similar, with Fedora being minimal, but you get things like gcc, python, and other items by default, which is nice. Fedora doesn't come with LibreOffice, games, or anything like that. I only used yum on CentOS, and I thought it was okay. Fedora now comes with DNF which is pretty close to pacman. Don't get me wrong, I like Arch a lot still and have no complaints, but I felt like Fedora struck a nice middle ground, and is, by default, very close to how I set up my Arch system anyways, even closer with the LXDE spin. edit to add: I still use the Arch documentation for just about everything. That's one area that no one can say Arch is deficient on.
dnlrn 11y ago
I'm also a long time arch user, who switched to fedora half a year ago. All in all both distributions are great, but one area where fedora has an edge is selinux support and delta updates. One area where arch has an edge is better font rendering using infinality-bundle by bohoomil.

zwarag 11y ago

Hold tight, I'ma bout to blow your mind man: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide

carlosrg 11y ago

>the default software is the latest stable version That's debatable. I don't consider the latest upstream versions "stable", no matter what they think - I've been using Linux long enough to know this the hard way. I think for people new to Linux (and for people experienced in Linux that don't like bugs too) a more conservative distro like Ubuntu LTS or Debian works much better in the long run.

Already__Taken 11y ago
If I come to linux to try a new way of doing things and get the benefits like a package manager. When I read a blog about some cool new release of software like docker or node and I want it. If `<package manager> install <software>` doesn't get me that and I have to arse around finding sources to add. I'm not saving any effort than just going to get some msi from a website.
- craigching 11y ago
  Agreed. I used to use so-called "stable" distros for the longest time because that's what our installed software was supported on. But when I couldn't use the latest and greatest development tools (emacs for instance), it became really annoying doing my development. So I switched (from RHEL/CentOS) to Fedora for my day-to-day development. I can't say I've run into any show stopper issues, our software and the supporting software run just fine on it and I'm a happier, more productive developer.
  - favadi 11y ago
    Just curious, why you couldn't use latest emacs in RHEL/CentOS? I think emacs is quite easy to compile.
    - craigching 11y ago
      It's been quite awhile, but, IIRC, glibc incompatibilities in particular as well as other general libraries that weren't easy to build and compile. I make use of a ton of packages that require other current components that weren't available on "stable" releases. Changing hasn't presented any stability problems, so, for me, Fedora has been a good, stable distribution that still lets me use my tools. EDIT: Please note, my experience may or may not relate on CentOS7 or RHEL7, this was more CentOS 5 and early 6 versions where I ran into issues.

RaleyField 11y ago

> because Fedora is easy to install Last time I tried Fedora was the previous version and I found it impossible to install codecs. You have to add third-party repository (rpmfusion), the problem I'm having is the way the repo is authenticated - http website points to a pgp key signed by one Corey Sheldon who appears to be only self-signed, so there is no way to establish chain of trust. I could download the key from multiple sources but I don't feel I should have to and more than that, I don't trust people who to some degree rely on security theatre, which http page pointing to a lonely public key essentially is. It's no better than downloading over plain http and my slight OCD compels me to refuse to do that. I realize this is more a rant about rpmfusion than Fedora, but then I feel essential support for playing various media files should be included within desktop OS.

mattdm 11y ago
Please work with your governmental representative on patent reform.