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“My faith is still strong,” she said. “But I am more careful in dealing with Christians than I used to be. They are just people with no more ability to be good
by sageabilly 11y ago
“My faith is still strong,” she said. “But I am more careful in dealing with Christians than I used to be. They are just people with no more ability to be good than anyone else.”
If you don't grow up in an area that has a very heavy Christian presence it can be hard to understand how very conservative/evangelical Christians think. Many of them believe, honestly and truly, that they are incapable of being wrong because they have been sanctified and saved and therefore even if they perform a transgression no one on Earth has the authority to call them out on it. But see, since they're saved, Jesus forgives them, so no one can call them out on their sin because no one is without sin, so best to just let it go.
It's an extremely insidious mindset because there's no arguing with it. There's no way to get someone who believes that they are morally right to budge even an inch because they 100% do not believe in capitulating to anyone other than Jesus Christ- and since the only source of what He thinks is the Bible and it can be interpreted in about a thousand different ways... you see where this is going. Their personal definitions of what's "good" and "bad" are very, very different from people who did not grow up in the religious culture and there's no way to bring them around to another way of thinking. It happens within the culture too- my father in law and his lifelong best friend had a falling out about 10 years ago over a very small, nitpicky religious matter (they were both elders in their church and disagreed over the way some church finances were distributed) and my father in law straight up stopped talking to his best friend because his friend would not capitulate and come around to my father in law's way of thinking. My Father in Law believed, and still believes, that he was 100% in the right and that his best friend was deceived by the devil and that's why their friendship had to end. And this is over something like "Should we put the church's nest egg all in a savings account or should we take half of it and put it in a Money Market account instead?"
I point this out to add some context to this type of arbitration since, if you didn't grow up in an area where this was just a normal fact of society, you're probably scratching your head wondering how in the world this is even a thing.
Even growing up Southern Baptist below the Bible Belt I had no idea that Religious Arbitration was a thing until I read this article. I had heard of Orthodox Jews having their own set of laws and rules and that being a thing in some very small neighborhoods of NYC, but I didn't realize there was a Christian equivalent being played out across the US.
- coliveira 11y agoI wish more people realized this. Evangelical christianity has its own crooked morality, which is entirely based on the infallibility of "born again" christians. What for most people is a sign of hypocrisy, for them is just a normal way of conducting business. Their use of the bible is a great reinforcement for this mentality. For example, if a christian leader commits a serious crime, they instantly point to their bible heroes such as David or Jacob (who also had seriously flawed ethics) as an example that christians cannot be opposed by non-christians even when they are wrong, and those chosen by god will always prevail despite their moral failings...
- takinola 11y agoI lived in the bible belt and I did not see any indication that evangelical christians thought they were infallible. This is literally the first time I have ever heard something like this. Now, there is quite a bit of self-righteousness but that's another matter
- sageabilly 11y agoIt is not something that is readily apparent unless you have grown up in an evangelical household/ gone to an evangelical church. It's a deep-rooted thought process that doesn't usually come up in interactions with anyone outside of the church/social structure, since people from outside that social structure aren't inherently expected to adhere to its internal laws. The article talks about people who were already a part of the existing social norm and what happened when they were wronged within that norm.
- AnimalMuppet 11y agoGrew up evangelical. Still am. I go to an evangelical church. I have never heard this, and I don't know anybody who thinks it.
- coliveira 11y agoEvangelicals will not admit this freely, this is a mentality that arises from trying to protect their values in the face of outside interference/criticism. Plainly, they believe in a kind of world that is "us against them", so in any situation they need to somehow justify the actions of their group. As a result, they are prey to the belief that born again christians cannot do anything wrong because they are moved by god himself (through the "holy spirit").