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The FBI is our version of the Gestapo of Nazi Germany.
by l3m0ndr0p 11y ago
The FBI is our version of the Gestapo of Nazi Germany.
- RankingMember 11y agoWow, Godwin's Law already.
- akiselev 11y agoHard to argue with the highest of Internet law but this is literally a paraphrase of President Truman's description of the FBI, found in the third paragraph of J. Edgar Hoover's Wikipedia page no less [1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover
- gopowerranger 11y agoSo it's a good thing Truman put a stop to it before it got out of hand.
- AnimalMuppet 11y ago"Tending that direction" (the actual quote) isn't quite the same as "they are" (l3m0ndr0p's statement). That's not "literally a paraphrase", that's omitting something that makes a significant difference.
- yourepowerless 11y agoHoover died over 40 years ago, who knows what he would say about the FBI today given their new found love of torture, and the governments new policy of murdering anyone, including US citizens without meaningful due process. But do go on, trot out some stupid internet meme while the American government continued it's descent into the abyss.
- akiselev 11y agoYou're quite right, the language I used does not quite hold up in a literal interpretation. I was willing to take this shortcut primarily because I assumed that Truman's political capital limited his ability to attack the FBI's power as was dictated by the FBI's power over him and his supporters in Congress, whose support he would need to be effective as executive and commander in chief. This is tin foil hat circular reasoning but given the historical evidence for Hoover's abuse of power, I don't think it's much of a stretch
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- happyscrappy 11y agoYou do not need an elaborate plan, there is always some jackass willing to say stupid shit thinking he is edgy.
- vezzy-fnord 11y agoThe Geheime Staatspolizei were actually remarkably inefficient, relatively understaffed, highly bureaucratic and reactive over proactive. The FBI are significantly more competent, I'd assume.
- akiselev 11y agoJ. Edgar Hoover took power of the FBI's predecessor in the mid 1920s and was a contemporary of the Gestapo and early KGB so he probably learned a lot about how to do and what not to do as a secret police force.
- gopowerranger 11y agoSince you say Hoover took over the FBI's predecessor in the 1920s, and the KGB was not formed until 1954, and the Gestapo in 1933, you have a credibility problem.
- venomsnake 11y agoSo we are left with only Stazi?