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"We need better antidepressants. We need antidepressants that create reliable, stable euphoria, not just an absence of debilitating depression that struggles to
by cryoshon 11y ago
"We need better antidepressants. We need antidepressants that create reliable, stable euphoria, not just an absence of debilitating depression that struggles to beat placebo.
But we need more than that. We need positive eugenics. We need to raise the IQ of the average human at least one standard deviation.
But the hedonic treadmill will grind on, and sustainable euphoric antidepressants might be impossible. And that will still leave 50% of the population miserable that they are in the bottom half."
And here you have made the case for a dystopia by suggesting that the human condition can and should be medicated away for the purposes of compliance. We already have a population that is heavily psychotropic drug-reliant in order to function, and the results aren't great. Stable euphoria is possible, just take up heroin injection.
The argument for eugenics is also problematic/impossible. The low IQ people are just as human as the high IQ people, and they can't simply be bred out peacefully because, surprise, the smarter people get the fewer children they have.
To offer a bit of perspective, I'd consider looking at societies that are less status-driven than the US as proof that blasting the public with medication isn't necessary with the economic/political tools of today. There are plenty of other places (Denmark or Nepal being good examples) where happiness is quite high, inequality is quite low, and the pyramid of status is much shorter and wider. People frequently want a sensation of fairness more than relative status; this is good especially because relative status is amorphously framed by the individual.
EDIT: I have read some of the literature at the website cited, and find it to be largely philosophically spurious techno-fantasy. On a very long view, we may need to address the question of abolishing human suffering entirely (an extremely optimistic speculation), but it's a premature conversation to have because the road between here and there will change the nature of the problem.
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- JoeAltmaier 11y agoMaybe we need a way of life that doesn't drive us all to depression in the first place. Get out of the house, into the wild once in a while. Move, play, exercise with a purpose instead of those dreadful torture chambers of stationary bikes and mills. They used to put criminals on treadmills as punishment! And increase socialization to a daily activity. No more trudging to a faceless cubicle, then trudging home to an empty flat for some TV time. Then drugs to sleep, and drugs to wake up again. We need no antidepressants; we need to stop actively inducing depression!
- cryoshon 11y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_r... Denmark's ranking for number of suicides is much lower than the US.
- drumdance 11y agoIQ is already going up, and has been for a long time. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect