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Accepting (and using) your confounding between copyright violation, plagiarism, and theft, most moral and legal system make exception to very minor infringement

by andreyf 17y ago

Accepting (and using) your confounding between copyright violation, plagiarism, and theft, most moral and legal system make exception to very minor infringements. The oldest I know of is the Babylonian Talmud, which grants exception to "injury less than a perutah in value" [1]. I challenge you to show any value in this "theft". that's saying that it is ok to steal dollar bills but not ok to steal 100's Precisely! That's what I meant by "borrow a pencil" without returning it: I'm saying it's OK to steal a piece of paper (or copy a comment), but not a dollar (or copy his blog post), and not a 100 (or copy a chapter from his book), especially if it serves another purpose (comparing replies to a popular comment in two communities). 1. http://www.come-and-hear.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_57.html http://www.come-and-hear.com/sanhedrin/sanhedrin_57.html

jacquesm 17y ago
I give up. Someone else want to give it a shot?
- andreyf 17y ago
  Someone else want to give it a shot? Sure. Assuming we have the same innate moral sense as the authors of the Talmud, you value the damages of my copyright infringement as greater or equal than a perutah in value. I do not. As a matter of fact, the reason I cross-posted is that I don't think the comment in question deserved the top spot, and would frankly be ashamed if such writing/logic were ever seriously attributed to me.
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Right... do you know what 'adding insult to injury' means ?
  - boundlessdreamz 17y ago
    Wow dude.. You are one of a kind.
- tel 17y ago
  Here's a good example: http://waxy.org/2009/04/all_things_digital_and_transparency_in_online_journalism/ http://waxy.org/2009/04/all_things_digital_and_transparency_... The short of it being that identity is paramount online. Stealing content can be a copyright issue, but stepping into someone else's voice and holding someone else's creative content as your own is simply evil. With proper, comprehensive attribution there's some flex to go around, but even then it's generally something done with consent and grace. Cross-posting someone else's comment might just be borrowing their pencil for an argument, but since it's kind of an amazing pencil and now you're showing it off to your friends like it's your own, you should expect cold stares when you give it back.
  - andreyf 17y ago
    Again, it depends on the value you attribute to a news.YC comment, and a reddit "identity". I agree with and understand the immorality of plagiarism, I'm just saying it only applies to work one puts more than a couple of minutes of effort into.

by andreyf 17y ago

jacquesm 17y ago

I give up. Someone else want to give it a shot?

andreyf 17y ago
Someone else want to give it a shot? Sure. Assuming we have the same innate moral sense as the authors of the Talmud, you value the damages of my copyright infringement as greater or equal than a perutah in value. I do not. As a matter of fact, the reason I cross-posted is that I don't think the comment in question deserved the top spot, and would frankly be ashamed if such writing/logic were ever seriously attributed to me.
- jacquesm 17y ago
  Right... do you know what 'adding insult to injury' means ?
- boundlessdreamz 17y ago
  Wow dude.. You are one of a kind.
tel 17y ago
Here's a good example: http://waxy.org/2009/04/all_things_digital_and_transparency_in_online_journalism/ http://waxy.org/2009/04/all_things_digital_and_transparency_... The short of it being that identity is paramount online. Stealing content can be a copyright issue, but stepping into someone else's voice and holding someone else's creative content as your own is simply evil. With proper, comprehensive attribution there's some flex to go around, but even then it's generally something done with consent and grace. Cross-posting someone else's comment might just be borrowing their pencil for an argument, but since it's kind of an amazing pencil and now you're showing it off to your friends like it's your own, you should expect cold stares when you give it back.
- andreyf 17y ago
  Again, it depends on the value you attribute to a news.YC comment, and a reddit "identity". I agree with and understand the immorality of plagiarism, I'm just saying it only applies to work one puts more than a couple of minutes of effort into.