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> you aren't specially threatened in some way So only people with some special justification are allowed to defend themselves? > weapons actually lead to a gr
by monochromatic 11y ago
> you aren't specially threatened in some way
So only people with some special justification are allowed to defend themselves?
> weapons actually lead to a greater risk than the security they can provide
Wrong, although this "fact" is bandied about depressingly often.
> it's more likely that the robber takes control of your guns and uses them against you than that you can use the guns against them
Completely wrong.
- legulere 11y ago> So only people with some special justification are allowed to defend themselves? In many countries the legislation is like that. For most of the rest, if there's no extraordinary risk of someone targeting you you're actually putting yourself and those around you in an unnecessary risk.
- monochromatic 11y ago> In many countries the legislation is like that. That may be. But of the many worthy things other countries have that we might emulate, this is not one. > you're actually putting yourself and those around you in an unnecessary risk This is just 100% wrong.
- Frondo 11y agoIt isn't wrong. The data show so very clearly that guns are far, far, far more likely to accidentally (i.e. negligently) injure someone than to be used in self-protection. You might feel better to carry one with you, but that is a feeling. Reality does not reflect that personal feeling.
- monochromatic 11y agoPlease link to the particular "data" you're referring to, so that I may eviscerate it.
- ceejayoz 11y agohttps://www.quora.com/Am-I-more-likely-to-kill-an-intruder-or-a-family-member-with-a-gun-in-my-house https://www.quora.com/Am-I-more-likely-to-kill-an-intruder-o...
- monochromatic 11y agoThere are some serious methodological issues with that paper. http://www.tbuckner.com/KELLERMANN.htm http://www.tbuckner.com/KELLERMANN.htm http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/01/william-c-montgomery/editorial-deconstructing-kellermann/ http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/01/william-c-montgomer... http://www.guns.com/2015/08/24/kellermanns-gun-ownership-studies-after-two-decades/ http://www.guns.com/2015/08/24/kellermanns-gun-ownership-stu...
- Frondo 11y agoWhy? You're acting out of feelings, not out of a respect for data. Your position on guns is faith-based, not reality-based, and saying "show me a study so I can disagree with it" just confirms that.