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As patio11 puts it: UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX
by askafriend 11y ago
As patio11 puts it: UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX UX
See more:
https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660931499680657409 https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660931499680657409
https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660931665275916288 https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660931665275916288
https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660931949645533184 https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660931949645533184
https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660932099742957568 https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660932099742957568
https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660932289002508288 https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660932289002508288
https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660932918672420865 https://twitter.com/patio11/status/660932918672420865
- dataker 11y agoUXUXUX... is also a feature of many open source alternatives.
- Killswitch 11y agoYou mean "Lets clone Slack's UI and say 'look we are just as good at UX as Slack!'"
- urda 11y agoThis is the part where you offer a few links to alternatives and demonstrate why said "open source alternative" meets that requirement. Otherwise, you have a noisy and unhelpful comment.
- pnathan 11y agoA well administered IRC channel has all of those, though typically you farm out to an image hoster for the pasting of images.
- Albright 11y agoWhich is kind of a frustrating answer, because Slack's UX sucks. Its desktop app is just a wrapped web page; the fonts and colors match nobody's operating system; the fffffffffffffffffriendly scroll bar; all the cutesy messages and iconography; "Reconnecting…"; etc, etc. Yes, I understand that it's still friendlier to use than IRC, but there's a middle ground between "easy to use" and "still looks and works like a proper, professional desktop application." In fact, HipChat is pretty close, even though it's just a wrapped web page too. It's kind of frustrating to see that all of these Slack alternatives are pretty much taking the same crappy UI cues from Slack. It's kind of like how, until the last few years or so, many common Unix/Linux desktops looked like Win95 rip-offs… You don't need to strive for familiarity if what people are familiar with sucks.
- brenschluss 11y agoNone of your comments about Slack's UX are actually about UX; they're about the UI.
- Albright 11y agoFair enough. How's this: If the UI of a desktop application does not match the standard appearance and interface of the rest of the operating system, a bad UX is almost a certainty, in my experience.
- tptacek 11y agoIf I want to share a diagram with Patrick on our internal Slack --- which we set up in under 10 minutes --- I select the diagram on my desktop and drag it into the window for the Slack channel. Everyone on that channel sees the diagram immediately. I do not give a shit what Slack's buttons look like. I can't do that with IRC. Even if we're all standardized on a modern OSX IRC client, we're still going to end up "sharing" URLs.
- Albright 11y agoAgain, you can use HipChat and get something closer to the best of both worlds; drag-and-drop file sharing with a standard (well… more standard-ish) OS X interface. It's great for you that look-and-feel isn't so important to you, but it is to a lot of people, and that includes myself. At any rate, on Slack, I once drag-and-dropped a text file with the output of a shell script that a colleague wanted to see. He started telling me how it was strange that the output seemed to cut off right in the middle of a line. lol, just kidding, Slack was just cutting it off like that, since Slack apparently can't show more than the first few K of a text file for some reason SO WHY IS IT SHOWING IT AT ALL ARGH
- rdtsc 11y agoWell not sure if there are enough repeated UX-es in there. If there would be, maybe 5 more, I'd be convinced, but so far not really.
- vox_mollis 11y ago...except irssi and WeeChat offer substantially better UX* * personal opinion, yes, but it seems quite obviously true.
- TeMPOraL 11y agoTrue. But that's my personal problem with Slack, and I guess that of many others too - Slack could be just as awesome as it is if it used IRC on the backend. Instead, it just fragments the already shredded realtime communications infrastructure. For me, this smells of a typical SV startup that tries to "disrupt" something by locking people in and then extracting value out of them before eventually getting acquihired and hanging them out to dry. As it is now, the success of Slack and HipChat is a danger to communication on the Internet.