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This seems to be kicking up a fuss over nothing, and any controversy disappears once you read how to use the feature in question: Using your microphone and mus

This seems to be kicking up a fuss over nothing, and any controversy disappears once you read how to use the feature in question: Using your microphone and music apps lets you share the TV and music you’re currently playing to your posts. To identify and share what you're listening to or watching: 1. Tap Status on your News Feed or tap Write Post on your Timeline. 2. Wait for us to identify what you're listening to or watching. You'll know if we're searching for audio matches if you see [an animated icon] moving. 3. Once a match is found, tap [an icon] to select the thing you'd like to share and then fill in your status update. 4. Tap Post. https://www.facebook.com/help/android-app/710615012295337 https://www.facebook.com/help/android-app/710615012295337

zyrthofar 11y ago
The fuss is about the data sent to Facebook's servers for "identification". You can make the decision to post it or not, but Facebook knows it in either case.
- mootothemax 11y ago
  >The fuss is about the data sent to Facebook's servers for "identification". You can make the decision to post it or not, but Facebook knows it in either case. But it's OK for Shazam or Soundhound? At which point is a feature just what it says on the tin?
  - beyti 11y ago
    Their main functionality is that data, which user knows before installing the app.
kuschku 11y ago
So, without opt-in, they record, upload, and match the content of my conversations, without previously getting consent from all parties that might have been involved?
- mootothemax 11y ago
  >So, without opt-in From the article: "If you choose to turn on this feature..."
  - kuschku 11y ago
    You choose to turn on the feature. The people around you have no choice at all if they are recorded or not.
    - mootothemax 11y ago
      >You choose to turn on the feature. >The people around you have no choice at all if they are recorded or not. How's that different to literally any application that sends microphone recordings across the 'net?
      - kuschku 11y ago
        It’s not very different, except usually you have to turn it on manually for every single recording. If you record without permission, it is illegal. Here a user turns it on once, and it will record every time you write a status update, and they might even forgot they turned it on – it poses a liability issue, and it leads to people being less able to find out if they are recorded or not. In the end, probably it will be the users that end up in court, not Facebook.
      - talmand 11y ago
        It is no different, any application that does this makes you subject to liability depending on local laws. If it is illegal in your area to record someone without their consent and you hold up your phone in a bar while using something like Shazam you may be breaking the law. While the odds of you being prosecuted for it may seem unlikely, doesn't change the potential liability.
    - colinbartlett 11y ago
      How is this different from Shazam? I don't think very many people are paranoid about their conversations being recorded when someone in a bar holds up their phone to identify what's playing.

zyrthofar 11y ago

The fuss is about the data sent to Facebook's servers for "identification". You can make the decision to post it or not, but Facebook knows it in either case.

mootothemax 11y ago
>The fuss is about the data sent to Facebook's servers for "identification". You can make the decision to post it or not, but Facebook knows it in either case. But it's OK for Shazam or Soundhound? At which point is a feature just what it says on the tin?
- beyti 11y ago
  Their main functionality is that data, which user knows before installing the app.

kuschku 11y ago

So, without opt-in, they record, upload, and match the content of my conversations, without previously getting consent from all parties that might have been involved?

mootothemax 11y ago
>So, without opt-in From the article: "If you choose to turn on this feature..."
- kuschku 11y ago
  You choose to turn on the feature. The people around you have no choice at all if they are recorded or not.
  - mootothemax 11y ago
    >You choose to turn on the feature. >The people around you have no choice at all if they are recorded or not. How's that different to literally any application that sends microphone recordings across the 'net?
    - kuschku 11y ago
      It’s not very different, except usually you have to turn it on manually for every single recording. If you record without permission, it is illegal. Here a user turns it on once, and it will record every time you write a status update, and they might even forgot they turned it on – it poses a liability issue, and it leads to people being less able to find out if they are recorded or not. In the end, probably it will be the users that end up in court, not Facebook.
    - talmand 11y ago
      It is no different, any application that does this makes you subject to liability depending on local laws. If it is illegal in your area to record someone without their consent and you hold up your phone in a bar while using something like Shazam you may be breaking the law. While the odds of you being prosecuted for it may seem unlikely, doesn't change the potential liability.
  - colinbartlett 11y ago
    How is this different from Shazam? I don't think very many people are paranoid about their conversations being recorded when someone in a bar holds up their phone to identify what's playing.