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They introduced similar feature with football (soccer) this weekend, or earlier and I didn't notice. When one of the teams I like is playing a match, the place

by gedrap 11y ago

They introduced similar feature with football (soccer) this weekend, or earlier and I didn't notice. When one of the teams I like is playing a match, the placeholder for post status is replaced with something asking my opinion about the match and a football icon is added. Which is a decent idea to get more people updating their statuses and posting more. Regarding privacy, etc. Eh, damn, it gets boring when so many comments are about how facebook is stealing your data and what not for every post like this. Yes, we all know that and no need to remind about it every time.

gjulianm 11y ago
There's a difference, though: you explicitly told Facebook what you like, and it's acting on it. You pressed "like" on your team, and Facebook can check if it's playing right now. However, this is different: you didn't tell Facebook "hey search what show I'm watching". Regarding the "it gets boring": yes, it's boring, but until it changes we will continue pointing it out. Because if you don't do it, people forget. We end up taking it for granted. Tell me how many people on Facebook know "Facebook steals their data" and how many of them actually act on it. What actually happens is that people have a vague idea of the privacy issues but, because "we all know it" and "it's boring" it doesn't get discussed and we end up accepting it.
- gedrap 11y ago
  >>> What actually happens is that people have a vague idea of the privacy issues but, because "we all know it" and "it's boring" it doesn't get discussed and we end up accepting it. After the Snowden leaks, pretty much everyone on HN is aware of the issues. So some are strongly against it and are vocal, and others silently accept it and don't think it's possible to convince them otherwise. But anyway, thank you for your nice, calm response to my semi-raging post :)
pdkl95 11y ago
So Facebook recorded your ambient audio, uploaded it to their servers, processed that recording to discover what you were watching, all so they could prompt you with a football icon and an opinion poll? Did they get your explicit permission before turning on that microphone and uploading what it recorded? Or did they hide it behind a button? Did they explain in a way most people would understand about what they were doing with the microphone and where the feature was actually implemented?
- sim0n 11y ago
  No, he most probably has liked his team on Facebook and FB is smart enough to know a game is on (or his friends have posted similar statuses).
  - gedrap 11y ago
    Yup, 'one of the teams I like' meant 'I like their page on facebook'.

by gedrap 11y ago

gjulianm 11y ago

There's a difference, though: you explicitly told Facebook what you like, and it's acting on it. You pressed "like" on your team, and Facebook can check if it's playing right now. However, this is different: you didn't tell Facebook "hey search what show I'm watching". Regarding the "it gets boring": yes, it's boring, but until it changes we will continue pointing it out. Because if you don't do it, people forget. We end up taking it for granted. Tell me how many people on Facebook know "Facebook steals their data" and how many of them actually act on it. What actually happens is that people have a vague idea of the privacy issues but, because "we all know it" and "it's boring" it doesn't get discussed and we end up accepting it.

gedrap 11y ago
>>> What actually happens is that people have a vague idea of the privacy issues but, because "we all know it" and "it's boring" it doesn't get discussed and we end up accepting it. After the Snowden leaks, pretty much everyone on HN is aware of the issues. So some are strongly against it and are vocal, and others silently accept it and don't think it's possible to convince them otherwise. But anyway, thank you for your nice, calm response to my semi-raging post :)

pdkl95 11y ago

So Facebook recorded your ambient audio, uploaded it to their servers, processed that recording to discover what you were watching, all so they could prompt you with a football icon and an opinion poll? Did they get your explicit permission before turning on that microphone and uploading what it recorded? Or did they hide it behind a button? Did they explain in a way most people would understand about what they were doing with the microphone and where the feature was actually implemented?

sim0n 11y ago
No, he most probably has liked his team on Facebook and FB is smart enough to know a game is on (or his friends have posted similar statuses).
- gedrap 11y ago
  Yup, 'one of the teams I like' meant 'I like their page on facebook'.