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Just noticed that the text on my profile has now been changed to "Marked for removal from database". Perhaps they fixed their "cron job". mumphster mentioned o

Just noticed that the text on my profile has now been changed to "Marked for removal from database". Perhaps they fixed their "cron job". mumphster mentioned on Twitter that that he just got banned also and actually managed to have an exchange with the CEO: https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063421283012608 https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063421283012608 https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063608302866432 https://twitter.com/elgruntox/status/661063608302866432 I'm not sure where the first line is coming from about any kind of information that they were "doing migrations" (I have had no such communication). My videos were already deleted because I deleted them one by one before they changed my password, put in a redirect back to home on my account, and updated my profile for me. Anyway, at least they're not referencing dice.com, which I have nothing to do with, anymore. I guess we're just back at square one now.

mumphster 11y ago
hes still chatting by the way. https://www.livecoding.tv/ell/ https://www.livecoding.tv/ell/ if anyone would like to ask the CEO of the site any questions while I wait for my account to really be deleted.
- dewski 11y ago
  Can't view the transcript without an account.
  - mumphster 11y ago
    A good hilight: http://pastie.org/10523598 http://pastie.org/10523598
    - Twirrim 11y ago
      > even going extra miles and telling users not to use misogynistic words on their channels. That's... that's... wow. Just wow.
  - slaxman 11y ago
    This is a part of the transcript: http://pastie.org/10523576 http://pastie.org/10523576 Very immature CEO.
avinoth 11y ago
Wow, the title of profile page is now * Marked for removal from database - in PHP programming language * Curious what they're doing right now..
- Mtinie 11y ago
  I'm not sure, but whatever it is, it's in PHP programming language! Could their support "team" be an automated agent proof of concept gone terribly, terribly wrong? /s
- brazzledazzle 11y ago
  Did they outsource all of their dev and administration to some cheap outfit?
minimaxir 11y ago
From mumphster's transcripts linked in the children (drmjg is the Livecoding.tv CEO): slateytv: you look childish and irresponsible for releasing her full name and company drmjg: As mentioned above her account really has nothing interesting on it. so there is no reason not to even delete it. [...] ellbot: also why the hell would you edit her profile to show her work and personal information to the public slateytv: are you unable to delete accounts? ellbot: do you not get how childish and evil that is drmjg: oh no. #1 we can but as you know is not like we go and delete each account instantly as 80% of users who requests account deletion come back after two weeks to requests their account back and are mad we deleted it drmjg: #2 people who requested account deletion in pasts used the accounts for credit card fraud and then re-create new ones. This is the weirdest attempt at a runaround I've seen in awhile.
- facetube 11y ago
  Man, if I were an investor I'd be doing anything I possibly could to eject this guy.
- shadesof 11y ago
  Sad. This person has obviously divorced reality. Shocking that a simple account deletion request could reveal so much. Whether his reaction was a product of pent-up frustration over normal growth challenges or a singular (now ongoing) display of gross immaturity, he has irreparably damaged his company.
- deleted 11y ago
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- madaxe_again 11y ago
  It's getting weirder. They've just responded to everyone who mentioned this debacle on twitter, saying that it's all resolved and all the posters on HN are spammers, banned users, and competitors. I'm none of the above. Go on guys, dig yourselves a deeper hole, you'll hit bedrock soon.
  - DanBC 11y ago
shadesof 11y ago
Looks like it's finally a 404.
- drakonka 11y ago
  Wow, it is! After all this time, I've never been so happy to see a 404.
  - brazzledazzle 11y ago
    Not sure if someone recreated your account for laughs but it's up again with the same spamming accusation in the profile.
    - drakonka 11y ago
      That's a good point, I suppose it's possible someone just recreated it as a joke. At this point I wouldn't put it past either the CEO _or_ some random internet troll.
      - brazzledazzle 11y ago
        Yeah, once you're at the point where someone can't distinguish your behavior from that of a troll, well... At any rate, they should have done something to prevent anyone from registering with your username. Even if it's just a one off redirect on their reverse proxy/gateway.
- drakonka 11y ago
  And I was able to just send myself a password reset request, so looks like they just put in a rewrite or something.
DrMJG_HN 11y ago
Hi Liza – This is Michael from Livecoding.tv. I hope the tension has calmed down a bit. Am traveling in Europe and thus not always reading emails. Apology for how our support handled your account deletion request and the emails back and forth. It was not really nice and needed given that your account had no content on it, we even deleted all your videos, and disabled your account. They thought you were a troll and just playing funny pranks on them with your friends. Sorry that it took 11 days to get it resolved. We are a small team and as such if one team member is traveling or on holidays some work/emails get delayed. We are also in the middle of a big migration to v2.0 and thus we have some backlog pending. Again I apologize! Let me know if you want to talk on the phone and I’ll apologize again. We will send you an Amazon gift card to soothe things a bit. Thanks!
- michaelmcmillan 11y ago
  Was it you personally or the "support team" that dealt with this case? I expect you to implement a delete-feature today. This is a marketing disaster.
- drakonka 11y ago
  Thanks for copy and pasting your email to me. Here is a copy-paste of my response to you: "Hi Michael, I wish you would stop trying to mislead me, to be honest. "we even deleted all your videos, and disabled your account" - no you did not. I deleted all of my videos myself, one by one, when I asked for my account to be deleted (before you changed my password and put in a redirect to home on login). I did this just in case there was any problem, and now I'm glad I did. Second, it took much more than 11 days to get it resolved, I'm not sure what time frame you are counting from? In addition it is not even resolved - I was again able to reset my password under an hour ago (or have you deleted my account since then? My apologies if so, I can test again although I have to say with everything that's happened at this point it seems more likely you would just change my email so I can't send myself a password reset instead of deleting my account) I really don't want to talk on the phone, nor an Amazon gift card. I just want you to stop trying to lie to me, libel my profile, and acting so unprofessionally. The one thing I wanted was to just have my account deleted, I do not know why this is so hard for you guys. Kind regards, Liza"
- 11y ago

mumphster 11y ago

hes still chatting by the way. https://www.livecoding.tv/ell/ https://www.livecoding.tv/ell/ if anyone would like to ask the CEO of the site any questions while I wait for my account to really be deleted.

dewski 11y ago
Can't view the transcript without an account.
- mumphster 11y ago
  A good hilight: http://pastie.org/10523598 http://pastie.org/10523598
  - Twirrim 11y ago
    > even going extra miles and telling users not to use misogynistic words on their channels. That's... that's... wow. Just wow.
- slaxman 11y ago
  This is a part of the transcript: http://pastie.org/10523576 http://pastie.org/10523576 Very immature CEO.

avinoth 11y ago

Wow, the title of profile page is now * Marked for removal from database - in PHP programming language * Curious what they're doing right now..

Mtinie 11y ago
I'm not sure, but whatever it is, it's in PHP programming language! Could their support "team" be an automated agent proof of concept gone terribly, terribly wrong? /s
brazzledazzle 11y ago
Did they outsource all of their dev and administration to some cheap outfit?

minimaxir 11y ago

From mumphster's transcripts linked in the children (drmjg is the Livecoding.tv CEO): slateytv: you look childish and irresponsible for releasing her full name and company drmjg: As mentioned above her account really has nothing interesting on it. so there is no reason not to even delete it. [...] ellbot: also why the hell would you edit her profile to show her work and personal information to the public slateytv: are you unable to delete accounts? ellbot: do you not get how childish and evil that is drmjg: oh no. #1 we can but as you know is not like we go and delete each account instantly as 80% of users who requests account deletion come back after two weeks to requests their account back and are mad we deleted it drmjg: #2 people who requested account deletion in pasts used the accounts for credit card fraud and then re-create new ones. This is the weirdest attempt at a runaround I've seen in awhile.

facetube 11y ago
Man, if I were an investor I'd be doing anything I possibly could to eject this guy.
shadesof 11y ago
Sad. This person has obviously divorced reality. Shocking that a simple account deletion request could reveal so much. Whether his reaction was a product of pent-up frustration over normal growth challenges or a singular (now ongoing) display of gross immaturity, he has irreparably damaged his company.
deleted 11y ago
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madaxe_again 11y ago
It's getting weirder. They've just responded to everyone who mentioned this debacle on twitter, saying that it's all resolved and all the posters on HN are spammers, banned users, and competitors. I'm none of the above. Go on guys, dig yourselves a deeper hole, you'll hit bedrock soon.
- DanBC 11y ago

shadesof 11y ago

Looks like it's finally a 404.

drakonka 11y ago
Wow, it is! After all this time, I've never been so happy to see a 404.
- brazzledazzle 11y ago
  Not sure if someone recreated your account for laughs but it's up again with the same spamming accusation in the profile.
  - drakonka 11y ago
    That's a good point, I suppose it's possible someone just recreated it as a joke. At this point I wouldn't put it past either the CEO _or_ some random internet troll.
    - brazzledazzle 11y ago
      Yeah, once you're at the point where someone can't distinguish your behavior from that of a troll, well... At any rate, they should have done something to prevent anyone from registering with your username. Even if it's just a one off redirect on their reverse proxy/gateway.
drakonka 11y ago
And I was able to just send myself a password reset request, so looks like they just put in a rewrite or something.

DrMJG_HN 11y ago

Hi Liza – This is Michael from Livecoding.tv. I hope the tension has calmed down a bit. Am traveling in Europe and thus not always reading emails. Apology for how our support handled your account deletion request and the emails back and forth. It was not really nice and needed given that your account had no content on it, we even deleted all your videos, and disabled your account. They thought you were a troll and just playing funny pranks on them with your friends. Sorry that it took 11 days to get it resolved. We are a small team and as such if one team member is traveling or on holidays some work/emails get delayed. We are also in the middle of a big migration to v2.0 and thus we have some backlog pending. Again I apologize! Let me know if you want to talk on the phone and I’ll apologize again. We will send you an Amazon gift card to soothe things a bit. Thanks!

michaelmcmillan 11y ago
Was it you personally or the "support team" that dealt with this case? I expect you to implement a delete-feature today. This is a marketing disaster.
drakonka 11y ago
Thanks for copy and pasting your email to me. Here is a copy-paste of my response to you: "Hi Michael, I wish you would stop trying to mislead me, to be honest. "we even deleted all your videos, and disabled your account" - no you did not. I deleted all of my videos myself, one by one, when I asked for my account to be deleted (before you changed my password and put in a redirect to home on login). I did this just in case there was any problem, and now I'm glad I did. Second, it took much more than 11 days to get it resolved, I'm not sure what time frame you are counting from? In addition it is not even resolved - I was again able to reset my password under an hour ago (or have you deleted my account since then? My apologies if so, I can test again although I have to say with everything that's happened at this point it seems more likely you would just change my email so I can't send myself a password reset instead of deleting my account) I really don't want to talk on the phone, nor an Amazon gift card. I just want you to stop trying to lie to me, libel my profile, and acting so unprofessionally. The one thing I wanted was to just have my account deleted, I do not know why this is so hard for you guys. Kind regards, Liza"
11y ago