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The forests will burn until they're all gone. Future generations will only know about them from pictures and stories. But hey, for one beautiful moment in time,

The forests will burn until they're all gone. Future generations will only know about them from pictures and stories. But hey, for one beautiful moment in time, a lot of shareholder value was created.

yeukhon 11y ago
Did you really think that the forest was always there? Trees will burn and they will return.
- Synaesthesia 11y ago
  The forests are much much older than humanity. But we're on course to wipe them out. I agree with you, I also think they will return, once we've gone extinct.
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- notacoward 11y ago
  Trees will return, but the forest won't. The new trees will be very different than the old trees, they won't be sitting on peat domes as they are now, there will be a different mix of animal and smaller plant species, etc. We've already been through this, on both coasts of the US, where old-growth forest was cut down and replaced by a totally different kind of forest. Most people don't even realize that what we have now is far from a natural state, with much lower species and ecosystem diversity or the robustness that comes with those things. "New trees will grow" isn't enough.
  - yeukhon 11y ago
    Of course the disappeared forest will not return, and of course the world doesn't look like what the world was 10 millions years ago. That's just a strawman argument. Also, obviously the government should still do something. Shit is going to happen, and we have learn to deal with shit. Whether forestation is achieved naturally or with human effort, that's okay. Deforestation is a huge problem I agree. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/science/as-fires-grow-a-new-landscape-appears-in-the-west.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/science/as-fires-grow-a-ne...
    - notacoward 11y ago
      Do you know what a "strawman" is? It's attributing an argument to another, which I didn't do. You actually said that the trees will grow back, as though that's sufficient. I disagreed that it's sufficient. Now you're changing your tune, and trying to retcon my response to be a strawman. No, it's not. It was a direct and topical response to what you were saying at the time. Why don't you just admit your earlier statement was in error?
ptaipale 11y ago
> The forests will burn until they're all gone. I understand these are not really forest fires but peat fires. You can say the same, of course, the peat will burn until it is gone. Difference is that the forest will regenerate very soon.

yeukhon 11y ago

Did you really think that the forest was always there? Trees will burn and they will return.

Synaesthesia 11y ago
The forests are much much older than humanity. But we're on course to wipe them out. I agree with you, I also think they will return, once we've gone extinct.
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notacoward 11y ago
Trees will return, but the forest won't. The new trees will be very different than the old trees, they won't be sitting on peat domes as they are now, there will be a different mix of animal and smaller plant species, etc. We've already been through this, on both coasts of the US, where old-growth forest was cut down and replaced by a totally different kind of forest. Most people don't even realize that what we have now is far from a natural state, with much lower species and ecosystem diversity or the robustness that comes with those things. "New trees will grow" isn't enough.
- yeukhon 11y ago
  Of course the disappeared forest will not return, and of course the world doesn't look like what the world was 10 millions years ago. That's just a strawman argument. Also, obviously the government should still do something. Shit is going to happen, and we have learn to deal with shit. Whether forestation is achieved naturally or with human effort, that's okay. Deforestation is a huge problem I agree. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/science/as-fires-grow-a-new-landscape-appears-in-the-west.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/22/science/as-fires-grow-a-ne...
  - notacoward 11y ago
    Do you know what a "strawman" is? It's attributing an argument to another, which I didn't do. You actually said that the trees will grow back, as though that's sufficient. I disagreed that it's sufficient. Now you're changing your tune, and trying to retcon my response to be a strawman. No, it's not. It was a direct and topical response to what you were saying at the time. Why don't you just admit your earlier statement was in error?

ptaipale 11y ago

> The forests will burn until they're all gone. I understand these are not really forest fires but peat fires. You can say the same, of course, the peat will burn until it is gone. Difference is that the forest will regenerate very soon.