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So, 12 hours on and the account still hasn't been deleted... I mean, at this point you have to assume none of the co-founders has the ability to delete it (bec

So, 12 hours on and the account still hasn't been deleted... I mean, at this point you have to assume none of the co-founders has the ability to delete it (because common sense would suggest they would have by now, if they could have, to mitigate the on-going public-relations disaster) probably because they outsourced all of their development and really have no clue about how their website actually works. Under normal circumstances, this could be understandable, but I think there's an obvious irony when the site in question streams people, well, coding! Now, I suppose it's fair to argue you don't need to know rocket science to make a space game either, but in this case, I'd think there'd be an expectation the people running the site actually at least kinda-sorta know how to code themselves. Or at least be able to delete some records from a database.

learning_still 11y ago
> at this point you have to assume none of the co-founders has the ability to delete it Perhaps they were hoping that OP would stream a how-to.
yokohummer7 11y ago
If deleting some rows is not feasible, I would even suggest special-casing the page and making it redirect to the 404 page, even though the user data would be still there. I mean, do somethimg. Seeing the issue not resolved even after the founder recognized the problem is utterly painful.
- learning_still 11y ago
  I think it's hilarious. Maybe they aren't taking it down because it's getting so many hits. edit: They'll be marketing it as "look at this huge spike in traffic we got this month" when talking to advertisers and content creators.
  - memonkey 11y ago
    Or maybe they think any PR is good PR
cjslep 11y ago
> So, 12 hours on and the account still hasn't been deleted... ... and the creepy, libel-ful* profile still stands: DICE.COM EMPLOYEE SPAMMING LIVECODING.TV Liza Shulyayeva banned for spamming. WORKS FOR DICE.com and is just spamming Livecoding.tv BANNED FROM LIVECODING.TV FOR SPAMMING BANNED FROM LIVECODING.TV FOR SPAMMING+ BANNED FROM LIVECODING.TV FOR SPAMMING * Apologies, I hit the wall of my vocabulary.
- tedunangst 11y ago
  Libelous.
- jffry 11y ago
  Maybe are you looking for the word "libelous"? https://www.wordnik.com/words/libelous https://www.wordnik.com/words/libelous
- facetube 11y ago
  Yeah, see a lawyer and sue these idiots for libel. People who do stuff like this deserve to lose their company.
_jsn 11y ago
Wouldn't it be fabulous if they live streamed someone writing the code for an account deletion feature?
sama 11y ago
YC is an investor in the company. We've been trying all day to reach the CEO and we've been unsuccessful so far. Obviously, this is very bad and we hope the company will fix it quickly.
- joeevans1000 11y ago
  I'm concerned that many comments on this suggest that the problem is that the CEO needs better PR. It's scarier to me that this sort of behavior could hide behind PR. For tech in general I think ethics needs to be considered more than PR, as that's the heart of the matter. Clearly, those who've signed up for Livecoding are somewhat scared that this team has their data. I understand YC can't run these companies, but I think we do look at YC investment as a sort of assurance that this sort of thing won't happen.
  - DrMJG_HN 11y ago
    Joe - I hope you doing fine in Indiana. Can you at least be honest and add that you spammed on Livecoding.tv many times marketing your website and service for which our support team warned you and banned your numerous accounts?
    - david_mitchell 11y ago
      You obviously don't trust the motives of the people posting here. That's fine, but perhaps you could phone whoever is your contact at YC for some friendly advice? Their interests are aligned with yours. I really get the impression that you don't see how bad your comments in this thread are. It's difficult when you're in the middle of something to take a step back and see it from other peoples perspective but you would really do yourself a favour if you just stopped posting here altogether at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if the op took your posts and made them into a follow-up blog post.
    - username223 11y ago
      How do you think pseudo-doxxing someone on a message board helps you at this point? This is just creepy.
threatofrain 11y ago
Given that they already edited the user's profile to say their full name and supposed placed of work, this means that they could've just blanked out the user profile with junk placeholder data. Since the user has done nothing offensive or distasteful, but merely asked for account deletion, I'm surprised at livecoding.tv's vindictive response.
niyazpk 11y ago
Is it wrong to assume that at least one co-founder in a YC funded startup knows how to write code?
- gaius 11y ago
  From their About page, neither of the founders is technical. One has a PhD in Finance but doesn't list any banks or hedge funds amongst his previous employers, that seems odd. The other is a business bro.
slaxman 11y ago
This is incredible! Also, just noticed their homepage: https://www.livecoding.tv/ https://www.livecoding.tv/ http://imgur.com/ryBikOY http://imgur.com/ryBikOY
DrMJG_HN 11y ago
Our team is not 24/7 on Hackernews. As you read, currently on different time zone, thus the delay to response

learning_still 11y ago

> at this point you have to assume none of the co-founders has the ability to delete it Perhaps they were hoping that OP would stream a how-to.

yokohummer7 11y ago

If deleting some rows is not feasible, I would even suggest special-casing the page and making it redirect to the 404 page, even though the user data would be still there. I mean, do somethimg. Seeing the issue not resolved even after the founder recognized the problem is utterly painful.

learning_still 11y ago
I think it's hilarious. Maybe they aren't taking it down because it's getting so many hits. edit: They'll be marketing it as "look at this huge spike in traffic we got this month" when talking to advertisers and content creators.
- memonkey 11y ago
  Or maybe they think any PR is good PR

cjslep 11y ago

> So, 12 hours on and the account still hasn't been deleted... ... and the creepy, libel-ful* profile still stands: DICE.COM EMPLOYEE SPAMMING LIVECODING.TV Liza Shulyayeva banned for spamming. WORKS FOR DICE.com and is just spamming Livecoding.tv BANNED FROM LIVECODING.TV FOR SPAMMING BANNED FROM LIVECODING.TV FOR SPAMMING+ BANNED FROM LIVECODING.TV FOR SPAMMING * Apologies, I hit the wall of my vocabulary.

tedunangst 11y ago
Libelous.
jffry 11y ago
Maybe are you looking for the word "libelous"? https://www.wordnik.com/words/libelous https://www.wordnik.com/words/libelous
facetube 11y ago
Yeah, see a lawyer and sue these idiots for libel. People who do stuff like this deserve to lose their company.

_jsn 11y ago

Wouldn't it be fabulous if they live streamed someone writing the code for an account deletion feature?

sama 11y ago

YC is an investor in the company. We've been trying all day to reach the CEO and we've been unsuccessful so far. Obviously, this is very bad and we hope the company will fix it quickly.

joeevans1000 11y ago
I'm concerned that many comments on this suggest that the problem is that the CEO needs better PR. It's scarier to me that this sort of behavior could hide behind PR. For tech in general I think ethics needs to be considered more than PR, as that's the heart of the matter. Clearly, those who've signed up for Livecoding are somewhat scared that this team has their data. I understand YC can't run these companies, but I think we do look at YC investment as a sort of assurance that this sort of thing won't happen.
- DrMJG_HN 11y ago
  Joe - I hope you doing fine in Indiana. Can you at least be honest and add that you spammed on Livecoding.tv many times marketing your website and service for which our support team warned you and banned your numerous accounts?
  - david_mitchell 11y ago
    You obviously don't trust the motives of the people posting here. That's fine, but perhaps you could phone whoever is your contact at YC for some friendly advice? Their interests are aligned with yours. I really get the impression that you don't see how bad your comments in this thread are. It's difficult when you're in the middle of something to take a step back and see it from other peoples perspective but you would really do yourself a favour if you just stopped posting here altogether at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if the op took your posts and made them into a follow-up blog post.
  - username223 11y ago
    How do you think pseudo-doxxing someone on a message board helps you at this point? This is just creepy.

threatofrain 11y ago

Given that they already edited the user's profile to say their full name and supposed placed of work, this means that they could've just blanked out the user profile with junk placeholder data. Since the user has done nothing offensive or distasteful, but merely asked for account deletion, I'm surprised at livecoding.tv's vindictive response.

niyazpk 11y ago

Is it wrong to assume that at least one co-founder in a YC funded startup knows how to write code?

gaius 11y ago
From their About page, neither of the founders is technical. One has a PhD in Finance but doesn't list any banks or hedge funds amongst his previous employers, that seems odd. The other is a business bro.

slaxman 11y ago

This is incredible! Also, just noticed their homepage: https://www.livecoding.tv/ https://www.livecoding.tv/ http://imgur.com/ryBikOY http://imgur.com/ryBikOY

DrMJG_HN 11y ago

Our team is not 24/7 on Hackernews. As you read, currently on different time zone, thus the delay to response