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Terrible example. When the iPhone launched, it could make calls and send messages extremely reliably. It was foremost a phone. Copy/paste wasn't a core part of

Terrible example. When the iPhone launched, it could make calls and send messages extremely reliably. It was foremost a phone. Copy/paste wasn't a core part of that functionality.

jarek 11y ago
> Terrible example. When the iPhone launched, it could make calls and send messages extremely reliably. Unless you were holding it wrong ;) > Copy/paste wasn't a core part of that functionality. So, what complex car functionality do you reckon is non-core and can be cut by Apple?
sorenjan 11y ago
According to test engineers at Ericsson, the first iPhone was "a crappy phone" [0]. It routinely dropped calls [1, 2]. It also didn't have 3G or MMS, something most if not all other phones had at the time. But apparently it was good enough, did other things well, and could be updated and replaced. That's a major difference between consumer electronics and cars. [0] http://www.techsite.io/2015/10/16/ericsson-engineers-thought-iphone-was-a-crappy-phone/ http://www.techsite.io/2015/10/16/ericsson-engineers-thought... [1] http://www.pencomputing.com/reviews/apple_iphone_3months.html http://www.pencomputing.com/reviews/apple_iphone_3months.htm... [2] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/31/AR2009073100971.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07...
- jfoutz 11y ago
  And yet, it seemed to do pretty well.
  - kamaal 11y ago
    It was perceived to do very well. And that is the only thing that counts. That's the same thing today too.
- timcederman 11y ago
  My second mobile phone was an Ericsson GH688. I spent an obscene amount of money on an Ericsson T68 when they first came out. The iPhone was better than any Ericsson phone I ever owned, as a phone (I owned a total of 8 Ericsson phones).
discreteevent 11y ago
I remember comparing a Sony minidisc player with an iPod. Same track, same compression, same headphones. The sound on the iPod was hopeless in comparison to the minidisc. Maybe the iPod improved later, I don't know.

Terrible example. When the iPhone launched, it could make calls and send messages extremely reliably. It was foremost a phone. Copy/paste wasn't a core part of that functionality.

jarek 11y ago

> Terrible example. When the iPhone launched, it could make calls and send messages extremely reliably. Unless you were holding it wrong ;) > Copy/paste wasn't a core part of that functionality. So, what complex car functionality do you reckon is non-core and can be cut by Apple?

sorenjan 11y ago

According to test engineers at Ericsson, the first iPhone was "a crappy phone" [0]. It routinely dropped calls [1, 2]. It also didn't have 3G or MMS, something most if not all other phones had at the time. But apparently it was good enough, did other things well, and could be updated and replaced. That's a major difference between consumer electronics and cars. [0] http://www.techsite.io/2015/10/16/ericsson-engineers-thought-iphone-was-a-crappy-phone/ http://www.techsite.io/2015/10/16/ericsson-engineers-thought... [1] http://www.pencomputing.com/reviews/apple_iphone_3months.html http://www.pencomputing.com/reviews/apple_iphone_3months.htm... [2] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/31/AR2009073100971.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07...

jfoutz 11y ago
And yet, it seemed to do pretty well.
- kamaal 11y ago
  It was perceived to do very well. And that is the only thing that counts. That's the same thing today too.
timcederman 11y ago
My second mobile phone was an Ericsson GH688. I spent an obscene amount of money on an Ericsson T68 when they first came out. The iPhone was better than any Ericsson phone I ever owned, as a phone (I owned a total of 8 Ericsson phones).

discreteevent 11y ago

I remember comparing a Sony minidisc player with an iPod. Same track, same compression, same headphones. The sound on the iPod was hopeless in comparison to the minidisc. Maybe the iPod improved later, I don't know.