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Google wants you to do special things for them. Have you gone to https://postmaster.google.com https://postmaster.google.com and set up your domain there?

by sn 11y ago

pflanze 11y ago
This was first mentioned on HN here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9905767 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9905767 (I'm hoping I won't have to partake in this.)
- sn 11y ago
  Yes, and even if the tools are not available perhaps the domain verification would help.
  - pflanze 11y ago
    I really would have hoped that Google would try to live without asking people to link domains to Google accounts. At least that's what I understand they are doing here. If so, this is a step towards their interest, not ours, and their slogan "don't be evil" pales more every day. Yes, of course some newer competitors of theirs are leading this course by attempting to win over people to their own closed messaging worlds, and users at large don't care, so all of this is sad. (The language on their blog post about this (linked from the mentioned post) is laden with a disappointing amount of weasel words, too.) So what I'm saying is, no, I don't want to link my domains to my Google account just so that I can send mails to them. And I'm going to hold out hoping that their systems are collecting enough trust in my domains and/or IP addresses in other ways so that it won't be necessary.
    - sn 11y ago
      Depending on who it is, maybe you can give the people you want to email mailboxes on your own domain?
devereaux 11y ago
Thanks, that is super helpful! I discovered the following for outlook.com: https://postmaster.live.com/snds/index.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0 https://postmaster.live.com/snds/index.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0 Are there similar tools for aol.com, yahoo.com and icloud.com? (to basically cover the big 5)
- sn 11y ago
  If you do find a tool for aol, let us know. They are the most obtuse when it comes to rejecting emails.
tedunangst 11y ago
No. Creating an account for every domain I want to send email to is not scaleable.

Google wants you to do special things for them. Have you gone to https://postmaster.google.com https://postmaster.google.com and set up your domain there?

by sn 11y ago

Google wants you to do special things for them. Have you gone to https://postmaster.google.com https://postmaster.google.com and set up your domain there?

pflanze 11y ago

This was first mentioned on HN here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9905767 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9905767 (I'm hoping I won't have to partake in this.)

sn 11y ago
Yes, and even if the tools are not available perhaps the domain verification would help.
- pflanze 11y ago
  I really would have hoped that Google would try to live without asking people to link domains to Google accounts. At least that's what I understand they are doing here. If so, this is a step towards their interest, not ours, and their slogan "don't be evil" pales more every day. Yes, of course some newer competitors of theirs are leading this course by attempting to win over people to their own closed messaging worlds, and users at large don't care, so all of this is sad. (The language on their blog post about this (linked from the mentioned post) is laden with a disappointing amount of weasel words, too.) So what I'm saying is, no, I don't want to link my domains to my Google account just so that I can send mails to them. And I'm going to hold out hoping that their systems are collecting enough trust in my domains and/or IP addresses in other ways so that it won't be necessary.
  - sn 11y ago
    Depending on who it is, maybe you can give the people you want to email mailboxes on your own domain?

devereaux 11y ago

Thanks, that is super helpful! I discovered the following for outlook.com: https://postmaster.live.com/snds/index.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0 https://postmaster.live.com/snds/index.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0 Are there similar tools for aol.com, yahoo.com and icloud.com? (to basically cover the big 5)

sn 11y ago
If you do find a tool for aol, let us know. They are the most obtuse when it comes to rejecting emails.

tedunangst 11y ago

No. Creating an account for every domain I want to send email to is not scaleable.