> Your problem is that you used a single random list website as your data point. LA's a big place with many tech or tech-related businesses, and there are few i

> Your problem is that you used a single random list website as your data point. LA's a big place with many tech or tech-related businesses, and there are few if any websites that even attempt to gather all of that data. Yup, never really trying to hide that. That was my cursory search example. Not a complete drill-down of every company in LA. I still can't name a bitcoin or drone company in LA. > LA has hundreds of companies revolutionizing media technology--nearly every VFX company in the area is working on some sort of innovative technology or software OK name some? Almost all VFX companies _make_ money but very few are looking for engineer/technologists are much as they're looking for people who know how to handle the expensive software. How many of those companies are actually hiring? > companies like Machinima and Red Bull changed the way we produce media, and companies like Hulu have changed the way we consume media. Cool. Not sure how this addresses the problem I stated. > LA is the home to hundreds of triple-AAA and indie video game developers, from the Braid guy and Riot Games to EA and Square Enix. "Braid guy" aka Jonathan Blow works in San Francisco now. Video games are definitely one of the few tech related fields where you have options, albeit with apparently poor pay. But again why work down in LA when SF have so many gaming jobs as well? > We've got dozens of companies in the tech advertising space that you've never heard of even though they're wildly profitable because they're purely B2B. So how would I even know to work at a tech advertising company in LA if "I've never heard of (it)?" And the problem again is there are tons of "tech advertising" in SFBA: Turn, Vivaki, Rocketfuel, Mopub, Facebook, Google, AOL, PubMatic just off the top of my head are all IN SF (although I think Google may do some ad stuff down in Irvine?). Why would I move down to LA to work at companies that are so bad at marketing I've never heard of them? > We've got hundreds of companies in the fashion/apparel space innovating at every step in the fashion process, from design to end-customer sales. Are we still talking tech or fashion? > LA is still the place to be for aerospace technology. Cool, if you're mecheng or eeng. > While SF startups dream about one day dipping their toes into logistics, LA-based companies have already revolutionized the technologies and process underlying the biggest logistics operations in the Northern Hemisphere several times over. Okay... Apparently you've mistake my comment as, "there are no jobs in LA" when I never argue that. I've lived in LA and grew up in SoCal so I would prefer to work there if I can find the right job. But from what I've seen that is available it's a lot of slim pickings compared to SF. > Venice, Manhattan Beach, and beach-adjacent Santa Monica is LA's Silicon Beach area. Like most beach cities in desirable areas they are expensive, though it is possible to live inland and pay reasonable rates for housing. Most businesses are spread out across LA, and with the exception of the video game cluster in Playa Del Rel (a beach city south of Santa Monica) most of the clusters are not in the beach-adjacent areas. Cool, you don't address that the companies in LA still pay their Engineers shit. You can live further away but then you're paying with your time, gas and car maintenance.