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> If you have a single person that is even slightly technical, it should be trivial to set up your own IRC server, and then you get complete control over all of
by mgkimsal 11y ago
> If you have a single person that is even slightly technical, it should be trivial to set up your own IRC server, and then you get complete control over all of your own information.
That's a pretty narrow view of 'slightly technical'.
These days, we've got generations of people who can manage their own email account setup, install web apps and mysql databases, configure zapier to connect multiple apps together within a few minutes. I know dozens of people who do things like this all day long for their clients.
I'd call all these people more than "slightly technical", but there's no way on earth they'd be qualified to set up and administer an IRC server.
You need far more than "slightly technical". "Slightly technical" sets you up for disaster. And... it's not 'trivial' to understand what's going on and how to manage it.
I agree, though, it should be trivial. It's just not.
- geggam 11y agoI think the meaning of "slightly technical" on hacker news should be a bit more than an enduser skillset. Technology isn't easy. Pretending it should be causes problems.
- mgkimsal 11y agosomewhat agreed, but I sort of think folks here get a bit insulated and have an inflated view of what "trivial" is. I've done a lot of sysadmin stuff for years, and web work for 20. Setting up an IRC server for me would not be 'trivial' either. Earlier this year I was told by several people that setting up an icecast server was 'trivial' too - anything but, ime.
- Gracana 11y agoIt's the sort of thing that's really easy to do poorly. I can skim ircd docs and get something running, but making sure it's set up correctly and securely is another thing entirely.