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I use uBlock Origin. I don't block ads - I block 3rd party requests. People that complain about ad blocking are indeed missing the mark. I'm fine with ads - rea

I use uBlock Origin. I don't block ads - I block 3rd party requests. People that complain about ad blocking are indeed missing the mark. I'm fine with ads - really. But if you want them seen, you are going to have to serve them yourself. There is no going backwards - for reasons spelled out by others in this thread. So if your business depends on ads, then you are in the ad business. Web sites are going to have to become like magazines. When I look at a magazine, I don't see a page with the message "please go get this other publication and look at the ad on page 3". I see the ad - in the publication I am viewing. Really, stop wining and just create quality content and engage with advertisers and ad firms that will create quality ads FOR YOU that will be place IN YOUR web page. Nothing exists that I know of that can block such ads.

intrasight 11y ago
I just looked at the guru3d site. The content is the ad - there's no need to add more ads. You just need to monetize the "ads" you already have. You are promoting these products. Negotiate with the vendor or reseller directly to get your fair share.
- AYBABTME 11y ago
  That's not a good idea if you want people to trust that your reviews are unbiased.
  - intrasight 11y ago
    That is why Consumer Reports carries no ads, and is why I am willing to pay for their content.
- dikaiosune 11y ago
  That would have a deleterious effect on the editorial independence of their content, I imagine.
  - deleted 11y ago
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  - intrasight 11y ago
    Yes it will. But if they are ad supported in the gaming hardware niche then they probably never had independence.
    - dikaiosune 11y ago
      That probably depends on their ad model. For example, I would imagine that Google ads would not cause them to change their editorial model, while a referral-based network or a more niche banner network might exert some influence. Further, whether they were truly independent to begin with is beside the question of whether it would make them less independent or not.
- zyxley 11y ago
  http://thewirecutter.com http://thewirecutter.com is a website that does something like this. They do in-depth reviews of all kinds of things and, as far as I know, make the money for the site off affiliate retailer links for the products they recommend. It helps, though, that their articles can have thousands or tens of thousands of words comparing and contrasting different products in the same category in depth, including clearly outlining the flaws of the products they consider the best option, while Guru3D seems to have articles that are badly rewritten press releases and/or bullet points copied from the back of a game box.
bigbugbag 11y ago
Isn't that the success recipe that turned google into a multi-billion transnational corp ?
tomjen3 11y ago
That won't work for small sites that aren't going to have a million monthly views, which means you are effectively chocking of new websites, or forcing them to proxy the request through their own site, thus pointlessly driving up the cost. I get that some people don't want to be tracked (I don't mind as long as I can selectively turn it of), but please at least be honest about what you don't like.
- alextgordon 11y ago
  In fact it only works for small sites. Big sites will get on the default blocklist right away.
  - yuhong 11y ago
    Which is why the user should be able to change it.
mozumder 11y ago
So, they make a CMS plugin that serves ads from same origin, instead of different origin. How would that help your user experience? (it might.. dunno)
- intrasight 11y ago
  I think it will help in two respects. If they are serving the content, they will take more responsibility for the content's message and for its effect on the user experience.
- beagle3 11y ago
  For once, they would not (easily) be correlating my data with other sites. Also, they would have more liability for choosing their ads so they do not include malware (a liability that Yahoo and friends have somehow been able to avoid, but shouldn't have)
  - mozumder 11y ago
    They could correlate with other sites with a back-end system that shares cookie data.
    - beagle3 11y ago
      That's exactly the thing, they can't. If you block 3rd party requests as intrasight (and I) do, there's no way for a back-end system to know that users of one website are users of another, short of using things like panopticlick or font-signature correlation (which are much less reliable than a cookie -- and personally I take action to make them useless).
      - mozumder 11y ago
        ??? I know who you are based on a cookie I drop on your browser (or just from your IP address) and I can share that information from my back-end to other sites.
rasz_pl 11y ago
You describe patronage, sponsored content, product placement. Hey, this gpu shootout brought to you by Nvidia, and ASUS!
- intrasight 11y ago
  Yes. Just as it is now true with other media (TV, Radio, Magazines) it is also true of the web - and largely for the same reasons.

intrasight 11y ago

I just looked at the guru3d site. The content is the ad - there's no need to add more ads. You just need to monetize the "ads" you already have. You are promoting these products. Negotiate with the vendor or reseller directly to get your fair share.

AYBABTME 11y ago
That's not a good idea if you want people to trust that your reviews are unbiased.
- intrasight 11y ago
  That is why Consumer Reports carries no ads, and is why I am willing to pay for their content.
dikaiosune 11y ago
That would have a deleterious effect on the editorial independence of their content, I imagine.
- deleted 11y ago
  [deleted]
- intrasight 11y ago
  Yes it will. But if they are ad supported in the gaming hardware niche then they probably never had independence.
  - dikaiosune 11y ago
    That probably depends on their ad model. For example, I would imagine that Google ads would not cause them to change their editorial model, while a referral-based network or a more niche banner network might exert some influence. Further, whether they were truly independent to begin with is beside the question of whether it would make them less independent or not.
zyxley 11y ago
http://thewirecutter.com http://thewirecutter.com is a website that does something like this. They do in-depth reviews of all kinds of things and, as far as I know, make the money for the site off affiliate retailer links for the products they recommend. It helps, though, that their articles can have thousands or tens of thousands of words comparing and contrasting different products in the same category in depth, including clearly outlining the flaws of the products they consider the best option, while Guru3D seems to have articles that are badly rewritten press releases and/or bullet points copied from the back of a game box.

bigbugbag 11y ago

Isn't that the success recipe that turned google into a multi-billion transnational corp ?

tomjen3 11y ago

That won't work for small sites that aren't going to have a million monthly views, which means you are effectively chocking of new websites, or forcing them to proxy the request through their own site, thus pointlessly driving up the cost. I get that some people don't want to be tracked (I don't mind as long as I can selectively turn it of), but please at least be honest about what you don't like.

alextgordon 11y ago
In fact it only works for small sites. Big sites will get on the default blocklist right away.
- yuhong 11y ago
  Which is why the user should be able to change it.

mozumder 11y ago

So, they make a CMS plugin that serves ads from same origin, instead of different origin. How would that help your user experience? (it might.. dunno)

intrasight 11y ago
I think it will help in two respects. If they are serving the content, they will take more responsibility for the content's message and for its effect on the user experience.
beagle3 11y ago
For once, they would not (easily) be correlating my data with other sites. Also, they would have more liability for choosing their ads so they do not include malware (a liability that Yahoo and friends have somehow been able to avoid, but shouldn't have)
- mozumder 11y ago
  They could correlate with other sites with a back-end system that shares cookie data.
  - beagle3 11y ago
    That's exactly the thing, they can't. If you block 3rd party requests as intrasight (and I) do, there's no way for a back-end system to know that users of one website are users of another, short of using things like panopticlick or font-signature correlation (which are much less reliable than a cookie -- and personally I take action to make them useless).
    - mozumder 11y ago
      ??? I know who you are based on a cookie I drop on your browser (or just from your IP address) and I can share that information from my back-end to other sites.

rasz_pl 11y ago

You describe patronage, sponsored content, product placement. Hey, this gpu shootout brought to you by Nvidia, and ASUS!

intrasight 11y ago
Yes. Just as it is now true with other media (TV, Radio, Magazines) it is also true of the web - and largely for the same reasons.