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OK, so capitalism is fundamentally about choices. Market players compete to bring products / services to the market that both a) people want to choose, and b) i
by vinceguidry 11y ago
OK, so capitalism is fundamentally about choices. Market players compete to bring products / services to the market that both a) people want to choose, and b) is cheap to provide. Because it is not the case that the most desirable service is the most expensive to provide, that allows for competition. Markets "learn" over time, advantages gained by one firm are copied by others requiring constant innovation.
The job market is no different, but the second quality, being cheap to provide, means there is going to be a constant degrading in the monetary compensation offered to workers, while the desired benefits those workers are getting is paradoxically going to increase. You can most clearly see this in companies like Uber where compensation gets slashed every year, but there's no truly mass uprising of drivers taking place.
You can treat this as a failure of union outreach, that Uber drivers should unionize and demand relief. But it's not like they can't organize. They were perfectly capable of organizing a march at Uber headquarters. No, most Uber drivers choose to keep driving, the arguments that they're being exploited seem a little thin when you realize that Uber drivers could be doing just about anything else to make more money if they were really truly being exploited. Workers in America have unparalleled ability, compared to other countries, to try out other industries and occupations.
What I think is happening, is that the information age has brought unmatched and unmeasurable utility to common people, in the form of free services provided by tech companies, to everyone (take a second to let it sink in just how unprecedented this is, historically, for a hugely valuable service, like Google search, to be provided to anybody with a Internet connection) and the job market is simply adjusting to meet the new status quo.
Being poor in America isn't nearly as horrible as it used to be. You don't need to expend unreal amounts of effort to increase your station just to have a more-or-less happy life anymore. Homeless people all can get online somehow. And that access provides them with incalculable value. There's a reason that everywhere you go, you see people buried in their smartphones. They're choosing smartphone interaction over everything else they could be doing right now.
So the labor market is adjusting to fit. People can choose to be poorer, and are doing that rather than expending extraordinary efforts to climb ladders that have, all of a sudden, become so much harder to climb. Because with these services, being poor isn't nearly as onerous.
- justinator 11y agoRegarding Uber: are the majority of its drivers part time, or full time? If the majority of drivers are part time, I wouldn't suspect there's as much of a chance of a march on Uber Headquarters, as it may not be their main source of income. There's also the problem of geography: the majority of Uber drivers are not close to it. I'm a little shakier commenting on your poor people/homeless ideas. Have you experienced being homeless/poor recently? I hate to think your perspective on this is from, ahem: an ivory tower.
- vinceguidry 11y agoI specifically tried to omit the homeless from my analysis. Americans have largely excluded homeless people from being able to participate meaningfully in the economy, for various reasons. I am in Colombia right now, and homeless people here play critical roles in maintaining city infrastructure. I saw a homeless guy once fixing water piping out in the street. It felt like the street was his home, he had a pride obligation to making sure his home was in good repair. I also see them doing things like trash sorting, things nobody else wants to do at reasonable rates. I think Americans, if they could moderate their sense of social justice, could find win-win solutions with the really hard-up that makes everybody's lives better. But they don't, so industries such as sanitation become hotbeds of corruption instead. But I grew up lower class, white privilege made my life much more palatable than it otherwise would have been. But I am very familiar with the psychological burdens of the working poor. Life is hard, but they are not stupid people. There's a tendency in America to equate lower-class with unintelligent. Just because you don't have an education doesn't make you stupid. Hard life makes you hard, eventually poor people become unable to climb the social ladder. I've met people who willingly chose less affluent environs over more affluent ones because the poorer ones were places they knew. They felt richer because of their knowledge than because of their opportunity.
- crdoconnor 11y ago>I wouldn't suspect there's as much of a chance of a march on Uber Headquarters Didn't that already happen?
- whatshisface 11y ago