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Ignoring the difference in salaries due to markets for a moment: This is obviously about respect and acknowledgement concerning this person's contribution. Tha

Ignoring the difference in salaries due to markets for a moment: This is obviously about respect and acknowledgement concerning this person's contribution. That said, if you don't already you must learn that cost of living and the job market have a huge impact on compensation and can vary dramatically from region to region in a country. Different countries entirely are literally a world apart. If you do already know this your comment can only be taken as sour grapes. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt concerning that still makes your comment a bit shitty. You have a skill that can be used not just remotely to get paid more, but as a basis for immigrating to a country that can pay you what you're worth. Yes, that's easier said than done but if you want something more you can get it with hard work and some elbow grease.

drugsAreBad0001 11y ago
Your comment is the shitty one. The guy makes more than 90% of the rest of the ENTIRE country, but he's "screwed"? Are you kidding? Only someone with an insane entitlement complex can fucking complain about 165k a year not being enough. Keep on being the reason the rest of the world hates the US, you're doing a GREAT JOB.
- brazzledazzle 11y ago
  Even though you're being over the top and hostile I really do get what you're saying and I sympathize with your situation. The recognized value someone brings is unfortunately often very much dependent on their geographic location. Since you're not native to the US (apologies if you are), I think you should understand that the US is a big place. Even many of the states are huge. Even many huge cities like Los Angeles can have dramatically different cost of living expenses depending on the area. Someone living in Alabama, even in a nice city in a nice area is going to have a much lower cost of living than someone in the Los Angeles area. So making more than 90% of the country seems like it's saying a lot but it really isn't. If this were simply a case of a normal employee at a mid-to-large corp it would be a completely different question. And even though this isn't the case his compensation and shares may be more than enough. I'm not arguing that it is or isn't. I'm simply pointing out two things: 1) That even if this was a normal "established company hires an employee" relationship where a someone making 25K in a different country is comparing apples to oranges. 2) A very early employee can be the difference between success and failure for a startup. Even more so if there are two founders and only one is technical. They want to feel respected for their contribution and compensated accordingly. 165K plus 3% might be more than enough. But that compensation package has nothing to do with the rest of the country or the world. Period. It's another apples-to-oranges comparison.
- dang 11y ago
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  - drugsAreBad0001 11y ago
    I'm sorry, but you ban accounts for having a contrarian view point? Please point out the rule that I've violated: I've not called anyone names, and your own comments dating back years state that you're not opposed to profanity (though I use it quite sparingly). The only possible violation is that my view is negative, but I think in each case it is at the minimum a reasonable and necessary opinion. Are you mad because I think OP has an entitlement issue? Sorry, but it's a completely VALID viewpoint, and if you're silencing valid viewpoints, then your site has a bias problem.
    - dang 11y ago
      We ban accounts for personally abusing other users. You've crossed that line repeatedly. If you want to discuss this further, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com.

drugsAreBad0001 11y ago

Your comment is the shitty one. The guy makes more than 90% of the rest of the ENTIRE country, but he's "screwed"? Are you kidding? Only someone with an insane entitlement complex can fucking complain about 165k a year not being enough. Keep on being the reason the rest of the world hates the US, you're doing a GREAT JOB.

brazzledazzle 11y ago
Even though you're being over the top and hostile I really do get what you're saying and I sympathize with your situation. The recognized value someone brings is unfortunately often very much dependent on their geographic location. Since you're not native to the US (apologies if you are), I think you should understand that the US is a big place. Even many of the states are huge. Even many huge cities like Los Angeles can have dramatically different cost of living expenses depending on the area. Someone living in Alabama, even in a nice city in a nice area is going to have a much lower cost of living than someone in the Los Angeles area. So making more than 90% of the country seems like it's saying a lot but it really isn't. If this were simply a case of a normal employee at a mid-to-large corp it would be a completely different question. And even though this isn't the case his compensation and shares may be more than enough. I'm not arguing that it is or isn't. I'm simply pointing out two things: 1) That even if this was a normal "established company hires an employee" relationship where a someone making 25K in a different country is comparing apples to oranges. 2) A very early employee can be the difference between success and failure for a startup. Even more so if there are two founders and only one is technical. They want to feel respected for their contribution and compensated accordingly. 165K plus 3% might be more than enough. But that compensation package has nothing to do with the rest of the country or the world. Period. It's another apples-to-oranges comparison.
dang 11y ago
We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the HN guidelines. If you don't want it to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com. We're happy to unban people if (but only if) they give us reason to believe they'll follow the rules in the future.
- drugsAreBad0001 11y ago
  I'm sorry, but you ban accounts for having a contrarian view point? Please point out the rule that I've violated: I've not called anyone names, and your own comments dating back years state that you're not opposed to profanity (though I use it quite sparingly). The only possible violation is that my view is negative, but I think in each case it is at the minimum a reasonable and necessary opinion. Are you mad because I think OP has an entitlement issue? Sorry, but it's a completely VALID viewpoint, and if you're silencing valid viewpoints, then your site has a bias problem.
  - dang 11y ago
    We ban accounts for personally abusing other users. You've crossed that line repeatedly. If you want to discuss this further, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com.