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You must be new to Europe. </sarcasm> I confirm that employment laws in France and in that country (Switzerland), if not other countries, are particularly prone
by tajen 11y ago
You must be new to Europe. </sarcasm> I confirm that employment laws in France and in that country (Switzerland), if not other countries, are particularly prone for abuse, and the culture is to fully exert the employee's interest. If you quit a job, you may not be entitled for unemployment at all, whereas being dismissed gives you 2 years of 80% benefits.
Most French startups are built on ACCRE: The unemployed asks for a lumpsum instead of monthly benefits at the condition that he creates a company. You can't get it if you quit your last job, so the game for entrepreneurs is to be as disrespectful as legally possible with an employer (e.g. liberally start working on the new company or poaching clients, as long as it's not forbidden), get fired, and create a startup. It makes the ACCRE the #2 source of funding for startups in France (after CIR, another public benefit, but that's a story for another day).
Such schemes mean the startup is created months and months after the opening of the market opportunity; after months of being a bad employee; and out of public benefits. To my opinion it's inefficient on all 3 facets. But that's how the old continent runs.
- bko 11y agoI've heard that the system in Europe is very "friendly" to workers, but that seems absurd. To me its not even so much the inefficiency, but the general hostile relationship it creates between employee and employer. It probably contributes to the high level of youth unemployment in some European countries. Worse of all, such perverse incentives result in cultural shifts as to whats acceptable. To think that someone readily admits that he would be willing to sabotage his workplace due to a sense of entitlement of 2 years with 80% benefits is really appalling. This isn't some out of work layman, replaced by technology. This is a highly skilled knowledge worker making probably an income probably in the 95 percentile of his country. Just because you can exploit something doesn't make it okay.