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MacBooks aren't really high quality. Shitty keyboard, pointing device, and an overheating chassis make them subpar (screens are amazing though). A ThinkPad X25

MacBooks aren't really high quality. Shitty keyboard, pointing device, and an overheating chassis make them subpar (screens are amazing though). A ThinkPad X250 or T450s with a LiteOn keyboard is pretty good. (Lenovo has two providers for keyboards, one sucks. If you get such a part, just get it replaced under warranty.) The screens don't compete with Apple, but otherwise there's no better laptops available. And if Lenovo doesn't cock up their upcoming "Retro" release, we might see an IBM-esque quality ThinkPad soon.

tracker1 11y ago
I'll agree with you on the keyboard, and even the heat issues.. but the mac trackpad is the main reason I'm still on a macbook pro. I also like the better display. However, Lenovo was a pretty bad actor just this past year. Beyond that, I happen to like the metal chasis on the MBP, though I'd really love to see anodized aluminum in either black or oher colors available... but then I'd also like to get user servicable batteries, memory and standard drives again.
- MichaelGG 11y ago
  It doesn't seem to respond to tapping, is that right? Gotta click it? And there's no buttons, so no easy way to right or middle click (middle click being great for tab management or entering scroll mode). What do you like about it so much? Lenovo is shit and I despise them. But they are the only ones making ThinkPads so sorta no choice there. User replaceable parts are great. X250 shipped when 16GB SODIMMs weren't common. Now that they are, it was a simple 5 minute upgrade.
  - mazatta 11y ago
    Tap to click is not turned on by default in OS X, but is possible through System Preferences - as is a tap with two fingers to get a right click.
  - tracker1 11y ago
    I like that you have to press/click it.. no accidental clicks while typing... as to middle click, click with three fingers on the pad, as two acts as a right click.. once you get used to it, it's very intuative, dedicated click regions (like many pc pads are adopting) are actually really annoying to me after using it, as is dedicated buttons imho. I have not love for apple, but really do like the touchpad interface they have more than any other. There are some alternatives to Lenovo, I happen to appreciate some of the Acer and Asus products available. I just like the macbook pro as a whole much more... Though, to be honest I don't see myself having to have a new laptop for some time, and even then likely won't buy Apple because their software has not been as good lately, I'm not tied to it, and would just assume use Ubuntu if there were a good hardware option (good by my admittedly arbitrary standards). The thing I like the least about macs is really my muscle memory is heavily tied to the Model-M style keyboards (including the mechanical feel). I have a Unicomp for my work macbook at work, that I flipped the ctrl/option/cmd buttons around, only in terminal windows, it's referested there and I can't enable software that could correct/reverse it only for iterm...

tracker1 11y ago

I'll agree with you on the keyboard, and even the heat issues.. but the mac trackpad is the main reason I'm still on a macbook pro. I also like the better display. However, Lenovo was a pretty bad actor just this past year. Beyond that, I happen to like the metal chasis on the MBP, though I'd really love to see anodized aluminum in either black or oher colors available... but then I'd also like to get user servicable batteries, memory and standard drives again.

MichaelGG 11y ago
It doesn't seem to respond to tapping, is that right? Gotta click it? And there's no buttons, so no easy way to right or middle click (middle click being great for tab management or entering scroll mode). What do you like about it so much? Lenovo is shit and I despise them. But they are the only ones making ThinkPads so sorta no choice there. User replaceable parts are great. X250 shipped when 16GB SODIMMs weren't common. Now that they are, it was a simple 5 minute upgrade.
- mazatta 11y ago
  Tap to click is not turned on by default in OS X, but is possible through System Preferences - as is a tap with two fingers to get a right click.
- tracker1 11y ago
  I like that you have to press/click it.. no accidental clicks while typing... as to middle click, click with three fingers on the pad, as two acts as a right click.. once you get used to it, it's very intuative, dedicated click regions (like many pc pads are adopting) are actually really annoying to me after using it, as is dedicated buttons imho. I have not love for apple, but really do like the touchpad interface they have more than any other. There are some alternatives to Lenovo, I happen to appreciate some of the Acer and Asus products available. I just like the macbook pro as a whole much more... Though, to be honest I don't see myself having to have a new laptop for some time, and even then likely won't buy Apple because their software has not been as good lately, I'm not tied to it, and would just assume use Ubuntu if there were a good hardware option (good by my admittedly arbitrary standards). The thing I like the least about macs is really my muscle memory is heavily tied to the Model-M style keyboards (including the mechanical feel). I have a Unicomp for my work macbook at work, that I flipped the ctrl/option/cmd buttons around, only in terminal windows, it's referested there and I can't enable software that could correct/reverse it only for iterm...