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> The game right now - as this article, this mail shows - requires you to learn about finance systems before you even start playing the game. It's a game where

> The game right now - as this article, this mail shows - requires you to learn about finance systems before you even start playing the game. It's a game where the rule book is - from this pov - too long and already uninteresting. Given that Starfighter's business model seems to be helping filter programming talent for recruiters, filtering out developers who aren't interested in programming financial systems is a good first step. My day job involves understanding the finance "rule book" and translating part of it into something that developers can understand and build to. But, even with my translation, the developers still need to be capable of understanding a certain amount about the "rule book" so they can delivery code/functionality that actually fulfils the requirements. If a developer isn't interested in (or capable of) doing that, they're not going to be of interest to someone who's looking to recruit developers to work on finance systems.

tptacek 11y ago
That is not our business model. We are recruiters (or at least: we plan to figure out how to be). We do not provide information to outside recruiters or hiring managers.
- jackgavigan 11y ago
  Aren't you using the CTFs you run as a way of filtering out the best talent? We intend to get in touch with very talented players. We’ll be interested in talking about the game, about what you’ve built, and about what you want to do in the future. If your future goals include “Get a better job!”, we can help make that happen. If not, no worries. We have agreements with a small number of companies to find qualified engineers and introduce them to the companies. These clients pay us for introductions which result in placements.
  - kbenson 11y ago
    He didn't dispute that, just that their model does not entail sharing your information. They aren't planning to be middle-men to recruiters, but to be a specialized form of recruiters themselves.

tptacek 11y ago

That is not our business model. We are recruiters (or at least: we plan to figure out how to be). We do not provide information to outside recruiters or hiring managers.

jackgavigan 11y ago
Aren't you using the CTFs you run as a way of filtering out the best talent? We intend to get in touch with very talented players. We’ll be interested in talking about the game, about what you’ve built, and about what you want to do in the future. If your future goals include “Get a better job!”, we can help make that happen. If not, no worries. We have agreements with a small number of companies to find qualified engineers and introduce them to the companies. These clients pay us for introductions which result in placements.
- kbenson 11y ago
  He didn't dispute that, just that their model does not entail sharing your information. They aren't planning to be middle-men to recruiters, but to be a specialized form of recruiters themselves.