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And when people get used to it, shift the time forward by another hour? This makes as much sense as those people who set their clocks forward by 15 minutes so

And when people get used to it, shift the time forward by another hour? This makes as much sense as those people who set their clocks forward by 15 minutes so they aren't late.

esrauch 11y ago
It doesn't, because the numbers of time have an independent meaning that people follow that is unrelated to the sun, which is the entire reason that daylight savings time even works: people don't just ignore it and work 9-5 this week and 8-4 next week even though those are the same natural times.
- Natsu 11y ago
  Yeah, they do have a meaning in terms of coordinating when we do things with other people. Which seems to be a better reason NOT to mess with it at all, really... There's no DST where I live. That's a good thing. Now I only have to worry about people who didn't resend Outlook invites after the time change or such.
- bendykstra 11y ago
  One interesting consequence of this is that the further west that you look within a timezone, the less sleep people tend to get. > Examination of ATUS activity logs shows that workers experiencing earlier sunset also go to bed earlier and that this correlation between sunset and bedtime persists even if the worker goes to bed well after dark. Coordinated work start times translate this earlier bedtime into longer sleep. Time Use and Productivity: The Wage Returns to Sleep, Matthew Gibson and Jeffrey Shrader
- robbrown451 11y ago
  They have that meaning because we are used to it. We'd adapt when a get used to the new situation.
xixi77 11y ago
It does make sense though. I would love for everyone to change typical working hours to 6 to 3 instead of the current 8 to 5, but it seems unlikely. Perhaps I'm subjective here -- but really, how often do you hear people complain about it being dark in late morning, as opposed to early afternoon? (FWIW, I do set the wall clock forward, too :) it does in fact help.)
- jschwartzi 11y ago
  I can't wake up fully until the sun is up, so I guess I'm one of those people.
- cname 11y ago
  Everyone I know hates getting up while it's still dark.
- PhasmaFelis 11y ago
  > but really, how often do you hear people complain about it being dark in late morning, as opposed to early afternoon? Jesus Christ, having to crawl out of bed and go to work in the cold dark is the most wretched feeling.

And when people get used to it, shift the time forward by another hour? This makes as much sense as those people who set their clocks forward by 15 minutes so they aren't late.

esrauch 11y ago

It doesn't, because the numbers of time have an independent meaning that people follow that is unrelated to the sun, which is the entire reason that daylight savings time even works: people don't just ignore it and work 9-5 this week and 8-4 next week even though those are the same natural times.

Natsu 11y ago
Yeah, they do have a meaning in terms of coordinating when we do things with other people. Which seems to be a better reason NOT to mess with it at all, really... There's no DST where I live. That's a good thing. Now I only have to worry about people who didn't resend Outlook invites after the time change or such.
bendykstra 11y ago
One interesting consequence of this is that the further west that you look within a timezone, the less sleep people tend to get. > Examination of ATUS activity logs shows that workers experiencing earlier sunset also go to bed earlier and that this correlation between sunset and bedtime persists even if the worker goes to bed well after dark. Coordinated work start times translate this earlier bedtime into longer sleep. Time Use and Productivity: The Wage Returns to Sleep, Matthew Gibson and Jeffrey Shrader
robbrown451 11y ago
They have that meaning because we are used to it. We'd adapt when a get used to the new situation.

xixi77 11y ago

It does make sense though. I would love for everyone to change typical working hours to 6 to 3 instead of the current 8 to 5, but it seems unlikely. Perhaps I'm subjective here -- but really, how often do you hear people complain about it being dark in late morning, as opposed to early afternoon? (FWIW, I do set the wall clock forward, too :) it does in fact help.)

jschwartzi 11y ago
I can't wake up fully until the sun is up, so I guess I'm one of those people.
cname 11y ago
Everyone I know hates getting up while it's still dark.
PhasmaFelis 11y ago
> but really, how often do you hear people complain about it being dark in late morning, as opposed to early afternoon? Jesus Christ, having to crawl out of bed and go to work in the cold dark is the most wretched feeling.