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> It's in beta for a reason There's no place on the public roads for beta software in safety-critical sytems. In fact, it's highly irresponsible. Tesla need t

> It's in beta for a reason There's no place on the public roads for beta software in safety-critical sytems. In fact, it's highly irresponsible. Tesla need to verify this off-road and release a production version.

Voloskaya 11y ago
Do you think they didn't verified it off-road? Beta (in this case) doesn't mean faulty or half-assed, but you cannot possibly encounter all real-life situations on your off-road closed track, hence the name Beta to stress that point. As far as I know there wasn't any issue with the autopilot when respecting the limitations stated by Tesla. Now if a driver want to disregard those warnings, He is being highly irresponsible, not Tesla. It's like blaming an auto manufacturer because you are able to do 100mph with your car in 30mph zones.
- speakeron 11y ago
  > Do you think they didn't verified it off-road? Beta (in this case) doesn't mean faulty or half-assed I know what beta means: it means that it hasn't shown consistent behaviour in a production environment. It means that there are edge cases which aren't understood yet. It also means that there are desired features which haven't been implemented yet. It means a lot things, of which none give a warm feeling if you're sharing the road with said software. > As far as I know there wasn't any issue with the autopilot when respecting the limitations stated by Tesla Ok. Do you think the environment in the video is consistent with the limitations stated by Tesla? When I look at the video, I see a car driving irresponsibly fast past a queue of slow-moving or stationary vehicles which then saved its ass by slamming on the brakes. Automatic cars which drive like that should not be on the road.
  - Voloskaya 11y ago
    I think we cannot agree because we don't have the same definition about who should be responsible of what. This is probably because Tesla call this feature Autopilot, while it is just an Autosteer (they also use this name sometime). Autopilot gives the impression that the car should be autonomous and be able to drive itself, while this is really not the case. The car can only do basically 4 things: -Follow the road lines -Follow the car in front (this is what happen in this video) -OCR on the road sign to adjust it speed -Emergency breaking All the rest is currently the responsibility of the driver, including reducing the speed in dangerous situations (like this one), taking the wheel in sharp turns, taking the wheel in cities, doing stops at traffic lights etc. The Tesla is NOT (yet) an autonomous car, and if you drive it with that expectation, it can be very dangerous indeed.

Voloskaya 11y ago

Do you think they didn't verified it off-road? Beta (in this case) doesn't mean faulty or half-assed, but you cannot possibly encounter all real-life situations on your off-road closed track, hence the name Beta to stress that point. As far as I know there wasn't any issue with the autopilot when respecting the limitations stated by Tesla. Now if a driver want to disregard those warnings, He is being highly irresponsible, not Tesla. It's like blaming an auto manufacturer because you are able to do 100mph with your car in 30mph zones.

speakeron 11y ago
> Do you think they didn't verified it off-road? Beta (in this case) doesn't mean faulty or half-assed I know what beta means: it means that it hasn't shown consistent behaviour in a production environment. It means that there are edge cases which aren't understood yet. It also means that there are desired features which haven't been implemented yet. It means a lot things, of which none give a warm feeling if you're sharing the road with said software. > As far as I know there wasn't any issue with the autopilot when respecting the limitations stated by Tesla Ok. Do you think the environment in the video is consistent with the limitations stated by Tesla? When I look at the video, I see a car driving irresponsibly fast past a queue of slow-moving or stationary vehicles which then saved its ass by slamming on the brakes. Automatic cars which drive like that should not be on the road.
- Voloskaya 11y ago
  I think we cannot agree because we don't have the same definition about who should be responsible of what. This is probably because Tesla call this feature Autopilot, while it is just an Autosteer (they also use this name sometime). Autopilot gives the impression that the car should be autonomous and be able to drive itself, while this is really not the case. The car can only do basically 4 things: -Follow the road lines -Follow the car in front (this is what happen in this video) -OCR on the road sign to adjust it speed -Emergency breaking All the rest is currently the responsibility of the driver, including reducing the speed in dangerous situations (like this one), taking the wheel in sharp turns, taking the wheel in cities, doing stops at traffic lights etc. The Tesla is NOT (yet) an autonomous car, and if you drive it with that expectation, it can be very dangerous indeed.