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It's been awhile since a fresh install but is it ViM. is Vi still around? I just seem to recall some things not working right. Such as not being able to ZZ or Z

by mgr86 11y ago

It's been awhile since a fresh install but is it ViM. is Vi still around? I just seem to recall some things not working right. Such as not being able to ZZ or ZQ out of a file.

Gonzih 11y ago
vi is built-in in arch installation. so...
- valarauca1 11y ago
  Vi is everywhere. Its part of the POSIX standard and comes out of the box (in one flavor or another) with every Linux Distro, OSX, HP-UX, AIX, Solaris, Darwin, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and DragonFlyBSD. ViM is just Vi iMproved. They share most their keybinds but VIM has the whole plugin architecture thing. This is a big sticking point for a lot of VIM users [1]. If you ever end up on a Unix box that doesn't have VIM, you can always fall back on Vi. [1]: /users/religious fanatics/
  - zck 11y ago
    At least on Ubuntu, vi is really VIM: zck@zck-desktop:~$ vi --version VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 (2013 Aug 10, compiled Jan 2 2014 19:39:32)
    - xiaodown 11y ago
      Eh, yeah, but it usually links to the "basic" version (which, I assume, is compatibility mode for old school vi). root@dicks:~# which vi /usr/bin/vi root@dicks:~# file /usr/bin/vi /usr/bin/vi: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/vi' root@dicks:~# file /etc/alternatives/vi /etc/alternatives/vi: symbolic link to `/usr/bin/vim.basic' root@dicks:~# file /usr/bin/vim.basic /usr/bin/vim.basic: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, (snip) root@dicks:~# vi --version VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 (2013 Aug 10, compiled Jan 2 2014 19:39:32)
    - LukeShu 11y ago
      On Arch, vi is the original Bill Joy vi. $ vi --version vi: illegal option -- - Usage: vi [- | -s] [-l] [-L] [-R] [-r [file]] [-t tag] [-v] [-V] [-w size] [+cmd | -c cmd] file... $ pacman -Qi vi Name : vi Version : 1:070224-2 Description : The original ex/vi text editor Architecture : x86_64 URL : http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/ Licenses : custom:ex Groups : base Provides : None Depends On : ncurses Optional Deps : s-nail: used by the preserve command for notification [installed] Required By : None Optional For : None Conflicts With : None Replaces : None Installed Size : 290.00 KiB Packager : Evangelos Foutras <evangelos@foutrelis.com> Build Date : Sun 06 Sep 2015 03:34:15 PM EDT Install Date : Fri 18 Sep 2015 10:33:33 PM EDT Install Reason : Explicitly installed Install Script : No Validated By : Signature (ok, I'm not actually on Arch, but I'm downstream of Arch, and that package is directly from Arch)
      - RexRollman 11y ago
        You are correct: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/vi/ https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/vi/
TranquilMarmot 11y ago
ZZ and ZQ work, at least on every instance of vim I've ever used
aidenn0 11y ago
vim defaults to 100% backwards compatible with vi. It has an option "nocompat" that enables some non-backwards compatible improvements. ZZ definitely still works regardless of nocompat though.
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by mgr86 11y ago

It's been awhile since a fresh install but is it ViM. is Vi still around? I just seem to recall some things not working right. Such as not being able to ZZ or ZQ out of a file.

Gonzih 11y ago

vi is built-in in arch installation. so...

valarauca1 11y ago
Vi is everywhere. Its part of the POSIX standard and comes out of the box (in one flavor or another) with every Linux Distro, OSX, HP-UX, AIX, Solaris, Darwin, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and DragonFlyBSD. ViM is just Vi iMproved. They share most their keybinds but VIM has the whole plugin architecture thing. This is a big sticking point for a lot of VIM users [1]. If you ever end up on a Unix box that doesn't have VIM, you can always fall back on Vi. [1]: /users/religious fanatics/
- zck 11y ago
  At least on Ubuntu, vi is really VIM: zck@zck-desktop:~$ vi --version VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 (2013 Aug 10, compiled Jan 2 2014 19:39:32)
  - xiaodown 11y ago
    Eh, yeah, but it usually links to the "basic" version (which, I assume, is compatibility mode for old school vi). root@dicks:~# which vi /usr/bin/vi root@dicks:~# file /usr/bin/vi /usr/bin/vi: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/vi' root@dicks:~# file /etc/alternatives/vi /etc/alternatives/vi: symbolic link to `/usr/bin/vim.basic' root@dicks:~# file /usr/bin/vim.basic /usr/bin/vim.basic: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, (snip) root@dicks:~# vi --version VIM - Vi IMproved 7.4 (2013 Aug 10, compiled Jan 2 2014 19:39:32)
  - LukeShu 11y ago
    On Arch, vi is the original Bill Joy vi. $ vi --version vi: illegal option -- - Usage: vi [- | -s] [-l] [-L] [-R] [-r [file]] [-t tag] [-v] [-V] [-w size] [+cmd | -c cmd] file... $ pacman -Qi vi Name : vi Version : 1:070224-2 Description : The original ex/vi text editor Architecture : x86_64 URL : http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/ Licenses : custom:ex Groups : base Provides : None Depends On : ncurses Optional Deps : s-nail: used by the preserve command for notification [installed] Required By : None Optional For : None Conflicts With : None Replaces : None Installed Size : 290.00 KiB Packager : Evangelos Foutras <evangelos@foutrelis.com> Build Date : Sun 06 Sep 2015 03:34:15 PM EDT Install Date : Fri 18 Sep 2015 10:33:33 PM EDT Install Reason : Explicitly installed Install Script : No Validated By : Signature (ok, I'm not actually on Arch, but I'm downstream of Arch, and that package is directly from Arch)
    - RexRollman 11y ago
      You are correct: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/vi/ https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/vi/

TranquilMarmot 11y ago

ZZ and ZQ work, at least on every instance of vim I've ever used

aidenn0 11y ago

vim defaults to 100% backwards compatible with vi. It has an option "nocompat" that enables some non-backwards compatible improvements. ZZ definitely still works regardless of nocompat though.

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