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This not the effect of Autopilot, Tesla calls it 'Automatic Emergency Braking'. Most modern cars come with similar collision avoidance systems. Volvo introduc

by ctz 11y ago

This not the effect of Autopilot, Tesla calls it 'Automatic Emergency Braking'. Most modern cars come with similar collision avoidance systems. Volvo introduced it first(?) in 2008.

beeboop 11y ago
Most? Maybe on luxury brands.
- Peroni 11y ago
  Not sure many people would consider Volvo, Audi, Fiat, Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Peugeot, Renault, Skoda, Subaru, Toyota and Volkswagen to be 'luxury' brands.
  - Someone1234 11y ago
    Most of the vehicles they sell don't offer CAS, only the top end trims in certain models. Many offer only CWS (no auto braking, just bleeping). The issue here is their use of the term "most." "Most" vehicles in 2015 is category untrue. Out of the top 10 most popular cars in the US, zero ship with CAS as a base feature, and half don't offer it at all. In the luxury market, it is more common/popular/standard.
    - Peroni 11y ago
      The luxury market is usually where most features now considered standard, originate. CAS is becoming significantly more common within the everyday market. Nissan's new Pulsar for example comes with CAS as standard.
- jbuzbee 11y ago
  My wife's 2015 Mazda 3 has it. It's kind of liberating to know it's there for situations like in the video
Someone1234 11y ago
I think it is an over-statement to claim that "Most modern cars come with similar collision avoidance systems." Many have collision WARNING systems (i.e. no auto-braking), and even then only on the highest trims or with an expensive options package ($3K+). However collision avoidance systems do exist, and manufacturers like Subaru have made them so inexpensive that there's little excuse to not buy it (e.g. Subaru Legacy Premium W/Eyesight is $25-26K, similar to a mid Camry or Accord, and those lack CAS at that price point ($30K+ Limited trim to get CWS in other cars, let alone CAS)). Aside from the luxury market (which Tesla is in) a lot of cars lack CAS or make it so expensive that they may have well. Subaru is the only manufacturer that makes it within the realm of your average joe (e.g. sub-35K).
- t2015_08_25 11y ago
  That's the thing that kills me - or almost did last month... [ 1 ] People are delirious about self-driving cars, but even the simplest automatable task of stopping when something is in front of you is not only an option, but an expensive one. If CAS is a pricey option, how much more will full driverless cost? How prevalent will it be? How likely is it that only the top 1% will have it? How long until it trickles down into middle-class? How much longer will it take to trickle down than CAS? [ 1 ] Another driver and myself were rear-ended hard in a senseless accident that would have been avoided if "car 3" had had CAS (or was driverless or if the driver had been paying attention, not speeding, not following too close). My last 6 weeks have been paperwork, doctor's appointments, painkillers, ice packs, phone calls and soon physical therapy appointments. All cutting into my productivity and good mood.
  - Someone1234 11y ago
    Well in Subaru's case the cost of CAS has dropped by 1/4th. From a 3K "Eyesight only" package on the top trim few years ago, to a 1.3K package on the mid trim this year that also gives you other features (e.g. winter driving assists, like heated mirrors, and so on). From rumours Subaru wants to make Eyesight (CAS) standard by the 2018 model year (mid-2017 release).
  - xenadu02 11y ago
vvanders 11y ago
From the source on TMC the user in question that posted this said he was using AP at the time. While the final braking was AEB I'd still say the title is fair.

by ctz 11y ago

This not the effect of Autopilot, Tesla calls it 'Automatic Emergency Braking'. Most modern cars come with similar collision avoidance systems. Volvo introduced it first(?) in 2008.

beeboop 11y ago

Most? Maybe on luxury brands.

Peroni 11y ago
Not sure many people would consider Volvo, Audi, Fiat, Ford, Honda, Hyundai, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Peugeot, Renault, Skoda, Subaru, Toyota and Volkswagen to be 'luxury' brands.
- Someone1234 11y ago
  Most of the vehicles they sell don't offer CAS, only the top end trims in certain models. Many offer only CWS (no auto braking, just bleeping). The issue here is their use of the term "most." "Most" vehicles in 2015 is category untrue. Out of the top 10 most popular cars in the US, zero ship with CAS as a base feature, and half don't offer it at all. In the luxury market, it is more common/popular/standard.
  - Peroni 11y ago
    The luxury market is usually where most features now considered standard, originate. CAS is becoming significantly more common within the everyday market. Nissan's new Pulsar for example comes with CAS as standard.
jbuzbee 11y ago
My wife's 2015 Mazda 3 has it. It's kind of liberating to know it's there for situations like in the video

Someone1234 11y ago

I think it is an over-statement to claim that "Most modern cars come with similar collision avoidance systems." Many have collision WARNING systems (i.e. no auto-braking), and even then only on the highest trims or with an expensive options package ($3K+). However collision avoidance systems do exist, and manufacturers like Subaru have made them so inexpensive that there's little excuse to not buy it (e.g. Subaru Legacy Premium W/Eyesight is $25-26K, similar to a mid Camry or Accord, and those lack CAS at that price point ($30K+ Limited trim to get CWS in other cars, let alone CAS)). Aside from the luxury market (which Tesla is in) a lot of cars lack CAS or make it so expensive that they may have well. Subaru is the only manufacturer that makes it within the realm of your average joe (e.g. sub-35K).

t2015_08_25 11y ago
That's the thing that kills me - or almost did last month... [ 1 ] People are delirious about self-driving cars, but even the simplest automatable task of stopping when something is in front of you is not only an option, but an expensive one. If CAS is a pricey option, how much more will full driverless cost? How prevalent will it be? How likely is it that only the top 1% will have it? How long until it trickles down into middle-class? How much longer will it take to trickle down than CAS? [ 1 ] Another driver and myself were rear-ended hard in a senseless accident that would have been avoided if "car 3" had had CAS (or was driverless or if the driver had been paying attention, not speeding, not following too close). My last 6 weeks have been paperwork, doctor's appointments, painkillers, ice packs, phone calls and soon physical therapy appointments. All cutting into my productivity and good mood.
- Someone1234 11y ago
  Well in Subaru's case the cost of CAS has dropped by 1/4th. From a 3K "Eyesight only" package on the top trim few years ago, to a 1.3K package on the mid trim this year that also gives you other features (e.g. winter driving assists, like heated mirrors, and so on). From rumours Subaru wants to make Eyesight (CAS) standard by the 2018 model year (mid-2017 release).
- xenadu02 11y ago

vvanders 11y ago

From the source on TMC the user in question that posted this said he was using AP at the time. While the final braking was AEB I'd still say the title is fair.