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Does it have to be different from Apple and Google's to be worth complaining about? The real competition here for a lot of users is against older versions of M

by sixbrx 11y ago

Does it have to be different from Apple and Google's to be worth complaining about? The real competition here for a lot of users is against older versions of MS's own OSs.

pjmlp 11y ago
No, but I see lots of complaints as if Microsoft was the first into this game.
- soylentcola 11y ago
  Understandable, but for a lot of people (me at least) a large part of why we use Windows on one machine or another is because of what it offers over those other OSes. I personally tend to use Windows because I can run it on just about any brand or model of x86 PC, it supports pretty much every component or peripheral I own, and it will run software not available for Linux. So yeah, when something you make heavy use of adopts policies that you don't like, it's pretty common to discuss and criticize them. If nothing else, Microsoft (or any other company) would be wise to consider these complaints from users because they can easily impact their bottom line over time.
- bad_user 11y ago
  Whether you want to classify your thoughts as an appeal to popularity, or maybe as "moral equivalence", or some other sort of logical fallacy, it's still a logical fallacy. For one, it doesn't really matter who was first, it doesn't absolve Microsoft of anything. Morality or the right to privacy should not be relative concepts. But related to your question - OS X does not leak data and comparing Windows with iOS or Android is comparing apples and oranges, as Windows is usually the desktop OS that has access to your company's VPN, your work and everything of importance, whereas a smartphone has at most access to your contacts, your calendar and your email. In other words sensitive, but not critical.
  - scholia 11y ago
    Configure telemetry and other settings in your organization https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208%28v=vs.85%29.aspx https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208%28v=vs.... >OS X does not leak data How to Stop Apple From Snooping on Your OS X Yosemite Searches http://www.wired.com/2014/10/how-to-fix-os-x-yosemite-search/ http://www.wired.com/2014/10/how-to-fix-os-x-yosemite-search... FYI: OS X Yosemite's Spotlight tells Apple EVERYTHING you're looking for http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/20/apple_spotlight_privacy_qualms/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/20/apple_spotlight_priv... > comparing Windows with iOS or Android is comparing apples and oranges This used to be true, a few years ago, but it isn't now. Windows 10 is a mobile operating system that also runs on mobile phones. It has notifications and Cortana (from Windows Phone) and it integrates with online cloud storage (OneDrive). It's intended to be continuously updated and work with apps acrosss multiple platforms, including iOS and Android. In sum, this is not your granddad's Windows....

by sixbrx 11y ago

Does it have to be different from Apple and Google's to be worth complaining about? The real competition here for a lot of users is against older versions of MS's own OSs.

pjmlp 11y ago

No, but I see lots of complaints as if Microsoft was the first into this game.

soylentcola 11y ago
Understandable, but for a lot of people (me at least) a large part of why we use Windows on one machine or another is because of what it offers over those other OSes. I personally tend to use Windows because I can run it on just about any brand or model of x86 PC, it supports pretty much every component or peripheral I own, and it will run software not available for Linux. So yeah, when something you make heavy use of adopts policies that you don't like, it's pretty common to discuss and criticize them. If nothing else, Microsoft (or any other company) would be wise to consider these complaints from users because they can easily impact their bottom line over time.
bad_user 11y ago
Whether you want to classify your thoughts as an appeal to popularity, or maybe as "moral equivalence", or some other sort of logical fallacy, it's still a logical fallacy. For one, it doesn't really matter who was first, it doesn't absolve Microsoft of anything. Morality or the right to privacy should not be relative concepts. But related to your question - OS X does not leak data and comparing Windows with iOS or Android is comparing apples and oranges, as Windows is usually the desktop OS that has access to your company's VPN, your work and everything of importance, whereas a smartphone has at most access to your contacts, your calendar and your email. In other words sensitive, but not critical.
- scholia 11y ago
  Configure telemetry and other settings in your organization https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208%28v=vs.85%29.aspx https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208%28v=vs.... >OS X does not leak data How to Stop Apple From Snooping on Your OS X Yosemite Searches http://www.wired.com/2014/10/how-to-fix-os-x-yosemite-search/ http://www.wired.com/2014/10/how-to-fix-os-x-yosemite-search... FYI: OS X Yosemite's Spotlight tells Apple EVERYTHING you're looking for http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/20/apple_spotlight_privacy_qualms/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/20/apple_spotlight_priv... > comparing Windows with iOS or Android is comparing apples and oranges This used to be true, a few years ago, but it isn't now. Windows 10 is a mobile operating system that also runs on mobile phones. It has notifications and Cortana (from Windows Phone) and it integrates with online cloud storage (OneDrive). It's intended to be continuously updated and work with apps acrosss multiple platforms, including iOS and Android. In sum, this is not your granddad's Windows....