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Honestly regardless of whether Windows 10 is good or not I can't stand MS pushing this update down my throat. I have a Windows 7 computer that I use mainly for

by simias 11y ago

Honestly regardless of whether Windows 10 is good or not I can't stand MS pushing this update down my throat. I have a Windows 7 computer that I use mainly for gaming and having those notifications pop up randomly is infuriating, it behaves like some crappy adware that comes bundled with IE toolbars. No option to turn it off either, you have to manually uninstall a bunch of updates if you want to get rid of it. And I almost believed the "but MS has changed" crowd. I really hope Valve manages to bring gaming on linux so that I never have to bother with this crappy OS anymore.

antsar 11y ago
> I really hope Valve manages to bring gaming on linux Not sure which games you play, but most of my favorites turned out to be available on Steam for Linux. I made the switch after W10's release and have hardly regretted it.
- sounds 11y ago
  Any time I see an article claiming Microsoft's app store and XBox will wipe out Valve, I remind myself that it's not Microsoft's direct counters to Valve, it's Microsoft's sheer size that will create the openings Valve needs. The OS group is undoing all the progress the XBox group has won.
- optimiz3 11y ago
  Maybe...Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen, or anything made by Blizzard? It's disingenuous to act like all you need is Steam.
  - Elhana 11y ago
    Anything made by Blizzard works in Wine just fine. Switched to Linux only years ago. I remember I was already playing WoW WotLK in Ubuntu with Wine.
  - antsar 11y ago
    All I need is steam. It's not disingenuous to claim that, because its true :)
falcolas 11y ago
What aggravates is that I uninstalled the update (and selected "ignore this update") which should have gotten rid of these prompts... and the next Windows update promptly re-installed it. It was a stark reminder me how little control I have over my personal computers right now.
- talmand 11y ago
  You have to turn off automatic updates, uninstall the update, refresh updates, tell it to hide the specific update so that it won't install. I believe at that point you can turn automatic updates back on. That's the process I did to get rid of the nagging on three Win7 machines.
  - acqq 11y ago
    MSFT wiped the "hide" mark already once: http://au.pcmag.com/windows-10/39165/news/oops-update-glitch-results-in-accidental-windows-1#comment-2312386490 http://au.pcmag.com/windows-10/39165/news/oops-update-glitch... "Mistake my rear end!!! Microsoft got caught re-re-releasing KB3035583 and other related updates and now they're trying to walk back their outrageous and unethical behavior."
  - shostack 11y ago
    The fact that you have to do this will hopefully spark a class-action lawsuit against this incredulous behavior.
    - gizmo686 11y ago
      On what charge? There is no law against making a bad product in general, and I do not see an anti-trust angle to apply here.
      - shostack 11y ago
        Not a lawyer so don't know, but it seems there is some rather underhanded approach to what they are doing here, and class actions seem to pop up for much less.
user_0001 11y ago
I feel a bit left out. I am using windows7 (preinstalled on laptop) and not once have I been notified about Windows 10. None of "get your free copy sign up now", none of the "do you want to upgrade".
- v4n4d1s 11y ago
  Do you regularly install windows updates? Are you in a company-domain?
- Encosia 11y ago
  Make sure you have the required ~16GB of free disk space that it requires temporarily for the download.
thomnottom 11y ago
Definitely check compatibility for games on Steam. The day I realized I could install the latest Civilization on Linux was the day I stopped dual-booting on my desktop.
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sliverstorm 11y ago
They are shoving it down our collective throats because there is a very large cohort of completely oblivious users who would otherwise never consume the update. I can appreciate their desire to EoL Windows 7 and avoid another Windows XP, wherein they have to support an operating system for 15 years. Even RHEL only offers 10 years on their extended support. Same reason Chrome updates automatically in the background without your consent. It's just less invasive, because it's only a browser.

by simias 11y ago

antsar 11y ago

> I really hope Valve manages to bring gaming on linux Not sure which games you play, but most of my favorites turned out to be available on Steam for Linux. I made the switch after W10's release and have hardly regretted it.

sounds 11y ago
Any time I see an article claiming Microsoft's app store and XBox will wipe out Valve, I remind myself that it's not Microsoft's direct counters to Valve, it's Microsoft's sheer size that will create the openings Valve needs. The OS group is undoing all the progress the XBox group has won.
optimiz3 11y ago
Maybe...Elite: Dangerous, Star Citizen, or anything made by Blizzard? It's disingenuous to act like all you need is Steam.
- Elhana 11y ago
  Anything made by Blizzard works in Wine just fine. Switched to Linux only years ago. I remember I was already playing WoW WotLK in Ubuntu with Wine.
- antsar 11y ago
  All I need is steam. It's not disingenuous to claim that, because its true :)

falcolas 11y ago

What aggravates is that I uninstalled the update (and selected "ignore this update") which should have gotten rid of these prompts... and the next Windows update promptly re-installed it. It was a stark reminder me how little control I have over my personal computers right now.

talmand 11y ago
You have to turn off automatic updates, uninstall the update, refresh updates, tell it to hide the specific update so that it won't install. I believe at that point you can turn automatic updates back on. That's the process I did to get rid of the nagging on three Win7 machines.
- acqq 11y ago
  MSFT wiped the "hide" mark already once: http://au.pcmag.com/windows-10/39165/news/oops-update-glitch-results-in-accidental-windows-1#comment-2312386490 http://au.pcmag.com/windows-10/39165/news/oops-update-glitch... "Mistake my rear end!!! Microsoft got caught re-re-releasing KB3035583 and other related updates and now they're trying to walk back their outrageous and unethical behavior."
- shostack 11y ago
  The fact that you have to do this will hopefully spark a class-action lawsuit against this incredulous behavior.
  - gizmo686 11y ago
    On what charge? There is no law against making a bad product in general, and I do not see an anti-trust angle to apply here.
    - shostack 11y ago
      Not a lawyer so don't know, but it seems there is some rather underhanded approach to what they are doing here, and class actions seem to pop up for much less.

user_0001 11y ago

I feel a bit left out. I am using windows7 (preinstalled on laptop) and not once have I been notified about Windows 10. None of "get your free copy sign up now", none of the "do you want to upgrade".

v4n4d1s 11y ago
Do you regularly install windows updates? Are you in a company-domain?
Encosia 11y ago
Make sure you have the required ~16GB of free disk space that it requires temporarily for the download.

thomnottom 11y ago

Definitely check compatibility for games on Steam. The day I realized I could install the latest Civilization on Linux was the day I stopped dual-booting on my desktop.

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sliverstorm 11y ago

They are shoving it down our collective throats because there is a very large cohort of completely oblivious users who would otherwise never consume the update. I can appreciate their desire to EoL Windows 7 and avoid another Windows XP, wherein they have to support an operating system for 15 years. Even RHEL only offers 10 years on their extended support. Same reason Chrome updates automatically in the background without your consent. It's just less invasive, because it's only a browser.