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I've heard coders of all abilities say orientated and oriented, and was under the impression they were interchangeable. One that I have heard repeatedly is MyS

I've heard coders of all abilities say orientated and oriented, and was under the impression they were interchangeable. One that I have heard repeatedly is MySequel from the Windows devs, and S-Q-L Server from the other side :)

silentbicycle 17y ago
This is something I wonder about a lot - I'm mostly self-taught, and every once in a while I still get blindsided by the pronunciation of a word I've never heard spoken.
- astine 17y ago
  There were a lot of home-schoolers where I went to college. You could always tell them because they had very large vocabularies (which they used correctly) but pronounced everything phonetically.
  - jrockway 17y ago
    Wouldn't they get the right pronunciation from their parents? Home schooling != being locked in a basement for 18 years with a few textbooks, after all.
    - astine 17y ago
      Arrangements for home-schooling varies but one common thread is that kids do a lot of reading and writing but not as much speaking so pronunciation slips through. It's just a result of the circumstances.
  - MaysonL 17y ago
    For quite a few years I was under the impression that there was a verb "misle" whose past tense was misled. [even though I wasn't home-schooled]
cmgarcia 17y ago
I started with PHP/MySQL a few years ago and pronounced it My-S-Q-L. Having only read on web and in book the word, it was only after I began my current position as an ASP.NET/MSSQL developer did I begin hearing it pronounced Sequel. When I started the position, I was actually told that pronouncing it M-S-S-Q-L would result in the entire IT department pegging me as a novice. I still use S-Q-L.
randallsquared 17y ago
I started as a Linux admin, and moved on to development, and I usually pronounce it "mysequel", though I use "postgres que ell" or just "postgres".
- astine 17y ago
  Same here, but I'd like to see someone try to pronounce it 'postgresequal.' More likely it'll come out 'postgrequal.'
  - randallsquared 17y ago
    I've heard people use "post-greh-sequel".
KWD 17y ago
This is one that still irritates me, and heard it misused (by non-windows dev) just this past weekend at a conference. Sequel is a product, S-Q-L is the language. Of course, this has been going on for awhile. http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=62158 http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=s...
kulkarnic 17y ago
Oh, it is called "Sequel Server" within Microsoft, but Wikipedia says "S-Q-L" for the language. Strange... I remember it saying "sequel" some time ago. Is the received pronunciation now C-O-B-O-L too?
- cema 17y ago
  My experience is, in the US they say "s-q-l" in academia and "sequel" in industry. YMMV.
  - michaelcampbell 17y ago
    That's interesting. In my experience, people who have been around it a long time (say, 20+ years) tend to use "sequel". The younger of my colleagues generally use "S-Q-L".
RyanMcGreal 17y ago
I started in the Windows world and moved over to Linux (when I have the choice). I've always called them "My ess queue ell" and "Ess queue ell server", respectively. I actually have to stop myself from cringing when co-workers refer to 'seequel server" because it sounds so awkward.
WorkerBee 17y ago
They are interchangeable: http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/oriented http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/orie... I personally used "oriented" - why use a longer word when a shorter one is precisely equivalent? Also, I'm used to it.

silentbicycle 17y ago

This is something I wonder about a lot - I'm mostly self-taught, and every once in a while I still get blindsided by the pronunciation of a word I've never heard spoken.

astine 17y ago
There were a lot of home-schoolers where I went to college. You could always tell them because they had very large vocabularies (which they used correctly) but pronounced everything phonetically.
- jrockway 17y ago
  Wouldn't they get the right pronunciation from their parents? Home schooling != being locked in a basement for 18 years with a few textbooks, after all.
  - astine 17y ago
    Arrangements for home-schooling varies but one common thread is that kids do a lot of reading and writing but not as much speaking so pronunciation slips through. It's just a result of the circumstances.
- MaysonL 17y ago
  For quite a few years I was under the impression that there was a verb "misle" whose past tense was misled. [even though I wasn't home-schooled]

cmgarcia 17y ago

I started with PHP/MySQL a few years ago and pronounced it My-S-Q-L. Having only read on web and in book the word, it was only after I began my current position as an ASP.NET/MSSQL developer did I begin hearing it pronounced Sequel. When I started the position, I was actually told that pronouncing it M-S-S-Q-L would result in the entire IT department pegging me as a novice. I still use S-Q-L.

randallsquared 17y ago

I started as a Linux admin, and moved on to development, and I usually pronounce it "mysequel", though I use "postgres que ell" or just "postgres".

astine 17y ago
Same here, but I'd like to see someone try to pronounce it 'postgresequal.' More likely it'll come out 'postgrequal.'
- randallsquared 17y ago
  I've heard people use "post-greh-sequel".

KWD 17y ago

This is one that still irritates me, and heard it misused (by non-windows dev) just this past weekend at a conference. Sequel is a product, S-Q-L is the language. Of course, this has been going on for awhile. http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=show&ixPost=62158 http://discuss.fogcreek.com/joelonsoftware/default.asp?cmd=s...

kulkarnic 17y ago

Oh, it is called "Sequel Server" within Microsoft, but Wikipedia says "S-Q-L" for the language. Strange... I remember it saying "sequel" some time ago. Is the received pronunciation now C-O-B-O-L too?

cema 17y ago
My experience is, in the US they say "s-q-l" in academia and "sequel" in industry. YMMV.
- michaelcampbell 17y ago
  That's interesting. In my experience, people who have been around it a long time (say, 20+ years) tend to use "sequel". The younger of my colleagues generally use "S-Q-L".

RyanMcGreal 17y ago

I started in the Windows world and moved over to Linux (when I have the choice). I've always called them "My ess queue ell" and "Ess queue ell server", respectively. I actually have to stop myself from cringing when co-workers refer to 'seequel server" because it sounds so awkward.

WorkerBee 17y ago

They are interchangeable: http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/oriented http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/orie... I personally used "oriented" - why use a longer word when a shorter one is precisely equivalent? Also, I'm used to it.