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This seems to be a recurring theme: Unix (and Windows) use files. Keeping track of files is hard. If we could just use enough Unix (internet, mobile, the cloud,

This seems to be a recurring theme: Unix (and Windows) use files. Keeping track of files is hard. If we could just use enough Unix (internet, mobile, the cloud, oh my), we could make files go away. And then pictures, video, music, etc come along and wreck everything. Maybe there are better machines to rage against than a hippie OS. Also, I wonder if they've done the math on how much data you can actually cram into the airwaves. You can't instamagically move more data through a finite spectrum at rush hour on a Wednesday.

Natanael_L 11y ago
They're essentially making end user devices into thin clients. Which I'm actually a fan of, if only I get to run the backend on my own server hardware. We badly need standardized home servers that can run 24/7 and managing storage and processing tasks for our mobile device. It would solve sooo much of the problems derived from unreliability of mobile devices.
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- valine 11y ago
  I personally love this idea. Its a mini cloud running out of your home and it puts you in complete control of your data. I would even take it a step further and say that as long as you have a home server running 24/7 why not run a mail server as well? It would resemble something like an apple tv. Small, quiet, power efficient. You plug it in, run through a simple setup wizard, pay ten bucks for a domain name, and off you go.
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  - Natanael_L 11y ago
    A mix between a basic game console (see Steam machines), router (see OnHub) and a plug computer could work, maybe. Something that the regular users have an incentive to buy, because the primary advertised features are something they need or really want, and that then also offers a wide variety of additional services, such as mail, VoIP, coalescing proxy for your mobile devices to save their battery, storage, etc...
- white-flame 11y ago
  I think more than 24/7, we need systems that can still work offline, and "do the right thing" transparently when reconnected. Copying files into your personal cloud while offline should still work. Deleting/renaming/moving files from the cached directory tree should still work offline. Opening cached files should still work offline.
- voltagex_ 11y ago
  >home servers that can run 24/7 and managing storage and processing tasks for our mobile device They better be low power - I pay ~34c/kWH for at my house. I recently looked into building a NAS for storage + OwnCloud and I can buy an awful lot of BackBlaze + AWS for the same price.

Natanael_L 11y ago

They're essentially making end user devices into thin clients. Which I'm actually a fan of, if only I get to run the backend on my own server hardware. We badly need standardized home servers that can run 24/7 and managing storage and processing tasks for our mobile device. It would solve sooo much of the problems derived from unreliability of mobile devices.

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valine 11y ago
I personally love this idea. Its a mini cloud running out of your home and it puts you in complete control of your data. I would even take it a step further and say that as long as you have a home server running 24/7 why not run a mail server as well? It would resemble something like an apple tv. Small, quiet, power efficient. You plug it in, run through a simple setup wizard, pay ten bucks for a domain name, and off you go.
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- Natanael_L 11y ago
  A mix between a basic game console (see Steam machines), router (see OnHub) and a plug computer could work, maybe. Something that the regular users have an incentive to buy, because the primary advertised features are something they need or really want, and that then also offers a wide variety of additional services, such as mail, VoIP, coalescing proxy for your mobile devices to save their battery, storage, etc...
white-flame 11y ago
I think more than 24/7, we need systems that can still work offline, and "do the right thing" transparently when reconnected. Copying files into your personal cloud while offline should still work. Deleting/renaming/moving files from the cached directory tree should still work offline. Opening cached files should still work offline.
voltagex_ 11y ago
>home servers that can run 24/7 and managing storage and processing tasks for our mobile device They better be low power - I pay ~34c/kWH for at my house. I recently looked into building a NAS for storage + OwnCloud and I can buy an awful lot of BackBlaze + AWS for the same price.