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Agree about Facebook being held accountable for the impact they have on the world. But I also agree with shaming people who use it. If you have an account you

Agree about Facebook being held accountable for the impact they have on the world. But I also agree with shaming people who use it. If you have an account you are actively subsidizing the impact Facebook has on the world. How frequently you use the product you are buying when you sign up for an account has no relevance. And here's what disturbs me most; a vast majority of the citizenship has basically handed over all of their personal details to big brother. Now we live in an environment where not having an account is enough to raise suspicion. History will prove Stallman the Cassandra of our times.

TeMPOraL 11y ago
Well, I am subsidizing Facebook and its impact on the world, and I am proud of it. Facebook had a tremendously positive impact on this planet - it connected people from all over the world like no other force in the history before. Maybe it's not really their accomplishment, maybe they just lucked into popularity at the right moment, but it doesn't change that they are there, helping over one billion people keep real-time communication across the world. People who don't use Facebook tend to not appreciate the impact it has on daily life, especially when it comes to staying up to date with lives of a hundred and then some people. 'peteretep provides some good examples[0]. So try and shame me all you want. I don't feel that I have anything to be ashamed of. > a vast majority of the citizenship has basically handed over all of their personal details to big brother Oh well. And the vast majority of the citizenship extracts tremendous value out of it and sees no negative consequence. Yes, maybe one day there will be an evil ad-company government that will drone-strike us all in bedrooms because twenty years ago we disagreed with the leading feminist activists. Or it will torture us eternally because it'll be so bored and have nothing else to do with all those real names it collected. But until then, explain to me like I'm five, why on earth should the majority of the citizenship care? And don't get me wrong. I'm not happy about what advertisers are doing. That industry is rotten to the core and should be burned down. But please, if you really need to shame someone, shame the advertisers using this data. > Now we live in an environment where not having an account is enough to raise suspicion. I see this repeated often, but there is no real point in that sentence. Not participating in any activity or phenomena that the majority is participating in is enough to raise suspicion, by the very definition of "majority", "suspicion" and "standing out". [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10475506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10475506
- bigbugbag 11y ago
  So facebook is really succeeding in replacing internet and the web in the mind of people who don't know better. I mean internet connected people from all the world like nothing before, people who are not online fails to appreciate how it can affect daily life. Heck it even grown a pimple on its back called facebook, this pimple has grown quite a bit now and is looking cancerous, even looks like it is actively trying to kill the internet (Cisa, internet.org, etc.) Sort of what msn tried in the 90's and failed because open always trump closed in the end.

TeMPOraL 11y ago

Well, I am subsidizing Facebook and its impact on the world, and I am proud of it. Facebook had a tremendously positive impact on this planet - it connected people from all over the world like no other force in the history before. Maybe it's not really their accomplishment, maybe they just lucked into popularity at the right moment, but it doesn't change that they are there, helping over one billion people keep real-time communication across the world. People who don't use Facebook tend to not appreciate the impact it has on daily life, especially when it comes to staying up to date with lives of a hundred and then some people. 'peteretep provides some good examples[0]. So try and shame me all you want. I don't feel that I have anything to be ashamed of. > a vast majority of the citizenship has basically handed over all of their personal details to big brother Oh well. And the vast majority of the citizenship extracts tremendous value out of it and sees no negative consequence. Yes, maybe one day there will be an evil ad-company government that will drone-strike us all in bedrooms because twenty years ago we disagreed with the leading feminist activists. Or it will torture us eternally because it'll be so bored and have nothing else to do with all those real names it collected. But until then, explain to me like I'm five, why on earth should the majority of the citizenship care? And don't get me wrong. I'm not happy about what advertisers are doing. That industry is rotten to the core and should be burned down. But please, if you really need to shame someone, shame the advertisers using this data. > Now we live in an environment where not having an account is enough to raise suspicion. I see this repeated often, but there is no real point in that sentence. Not participating in any activity or phenomena that the majority is participating in is enough to raise suspicion, by the very definition of "majority", "suspicion" and "standing out". [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10475506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10475506

bigbugbag 11y ago
So facebook is really succeeding in replacing internet and the web in the mind of people who don't know better. I mean internet connected people from all the world like nothing before, people who are not online fails to appreciate how it can affect daily life. Heck it even grown a pimple on its back called facebook, this pimple has grown quite a bit now and is looking cancerous, even looks like it is actively trying to kill the internet (Cisa, internet.org, etc.) Sort of what msn tried in the 90's and failed because open always trump closed in the end.