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> So each app will continue to ask for access to everything and you choose between being info-excluded or giving away your data. I think you might misunderstan

> So each app will continue to ask for access to everything and you choose between being info-excluded or giving away your data. I think you might misunderstand what the Marshmallow upgrade will allow. Users will have the ability to turn off any given permission for any given app. Don't want google maps to have GPS access? Cool, just turn it off and the app will have to deal with the lack of information. It's not a Windows model carte blanche per-run thing. Sure, apps can be abusive and ask for more permissions than they need and refuse to run if they don't have them, but that's a problem with any conceivable permission system.

malka 11y ago
> Sure, apps can be abusive and ask for more permissions than they need and refuse to run if they don't have them, but that's a problem with any conceivable permission system. The OS could give fake data to the apps. Such as a arbitrary GPS location, or an empty contact list.
- oneeyedpigeon 11y ago
  Hopefully, that would be unnecessary. If my calculator app won't run without full access to my address book, I'll seek out an alternative calculator which will; at this extreme, with an open marketplace, there will surely be alternatives.
  - JetSpiegel 11y ago
    > with an open marketplace, there will surely be alternatives Famous last words. Take a look at the Android store, it's a wasteland of adware-ridden crap.
    - chrisacree 11y ago
      Alright, time to take a stand. If you can't find a calculator app that doesn't require your contacts/GPS, I will personally build one. Be the change!
- gruez 11y ago
  there's xprivacy for that
- guelo 11y ago
  Marshmallow does do this for legacy apps that are not designed for the new permission model.
- s73v3r 11y ago
  That's not something that developers would stand for. As a developer, I want to know that a permission was denied, so I can take action. If a permission I asked for was denied, it's quite possible my app won't run correctly. And I don't want to deal with idiots leaving crappy reviews because they decided to deny permission.

malka 11y ago

> Sure, apps can be abusive and ask for more permissions than they need and refuse to run if they don't have them, but that's a problem with any conceivable permission system. The OS could give fake data to the apps. Such as a arbitrary GPS location, or an empty contact list.

oneeyedpigeon 11y ago
Hopefully, that would be unnecessary. If my calculator app won't run without full access to my address book, I'll seek out an alternative calculator which will; at this extreme, with an open marketplace, there will surely be alternatives.
- JetSpiegel 11y ago
  > with an open marketplace, there will surely be alternatives Famous last words. Take a look at the Android store, it's a wasteland of adware-ridden crap.
  - chrisacree 11y ago
    Alright, time to take a stand. If you can't find a calculator app that doesn't require your contacts/GPS, I will personally build one. Be the change!
gruez 11y ago
there's xprivacy for that
guelo 11y ago
Marshmallow does do this for legacy apps that are not designed for the new permission model.
s73v3r 11y ago
That's not something that developers would stand for. As a developer, I want to know that a permission was denied, so I can take action. If a permission I asked for was denied, it's quite possible my app won't run correctly. And I don't want to deal with idiots leaving crappy reviews because they decided to deny permission.