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> Needless to say, we were slightly irritated at the fact that a valuable feature for our merchants, totally unrelated to online privacy issues, was blocked by

by kylek 11y ago

> Needless to say, we were slightly irritated at the fact that a valuable feature for our merchants, totally unrelated to online privacy issues, was blocked by the software. Why would the author think tracking/analytics is "totally unrelated to online privacy issues"? Baffling

lifeisstillgood 11y ago
Because if I understand it, the people who were blocking "api/analytics" we're actually paying in order to see the page that was being blocked.
- oneJob 11y ago
  Just because you're handing over money, doesn't mean you are happy to relinquish all of your privacy. Entering a very grey area.
  - g4k 11y ago
    It was not about tracking the users, but about showing tracking data in the dashboard to the users itself.
hartator 11y ago
I've a business that rely only on online advertising and directly lose revenue from ad blockers. Never felt irritated about that, it's just fair game. As a publisher, if you want to be profitable, you have to load a bunch of crap from Google, Criteo and others. And, I feel the quality of the JS loaded are slowly degrading. That's shameful point. Advertising networks should buy the best JS talents and release top quality JS. Until then, people should use Ad blockers.
- wmeredith 11y ago
  I think you meant to say "lose" not "loose".
- stevesearer 11y ago
  It is not 100% true that publishers can only be profitable using ad networks that degrade quality. Anecdotal evidence is myself who recently removed Adsense and only direct sells ads. Positives of direct selling is that I get 100% of the sale and I have better control over the ads on my site (static image graphics, no popovers or interstitials). The former makes me happy, the latter improves the experience for my readers. That said, I do use ad blockers from time-to-time myself because some sites have gotten so ridiculous they are absolutely unusable - I'm talking to you Epicurious and Bon Appetit!
  - blantonl 11y ago
    Yes, and you also have to manage a team (even if that is yourself) to monetize your ad traffic. There is no way to scale running your own internal ad network unless you have scores of folks to manage the marketing of your property, the managemnet of your ads, contracts, receipt of payment etc.
geosaa 11y ago
The information blocked had nothing to do with tracking and privacy. It's a page that displayed the customer's sales performance within the application itself. So it IS "totally unrelated to online privacy issues"

by kylek 11y ago

lifeisstillgood 11y ago

Because if I understand it, the people who were blocking "api/analytics" we're actually paying in order to see the page that was being blocked.

oneJob 11y ago
Just because you're handing over money, doesn't mean you are happy to relinquish all of your privacy. Entering a very grey area.
- g4k 11y ago
  It was not about tracking the users, but about showing tracking data in the dashboard to the users itself.

hartator 11y ago

I've a business that rely only on online advertising and directly lose revenue from ad blockers. Never felt irritated about that, it's just fair game. As a publisher, if you want to be profitable, you have to load a bunch of crap from Google, Criteo and others. And, I feel the quality of the JS loaded are slowly degrading. That's shameful point. Advertising networks should buy the best JS talents and release top quality JS. Until then, people should use Ad blockers.

wmeredith 11y ago
I think you meant to say "lose" not "loose".
stevesearer 11y ago
It is not 100% true that publishers can only be profitable using ad networks that degrade quality. Anecdotal evidence is myself who recently removed Adsense and only direct sells ads. Positives of direct selling is that I get 100% of the sale and I have better control over the ads on my site (static image graphics, no popovers or interstitials). The former makes me happy, the latter improves the experience for my readers. That said, I do use ad blockers from time-to-time myself because some sites have gotten so ridiculous they are absolutely unusable - I'm talking to you Epicurious and Bon Appetit!
- blantonl 11y ago
  Yes, and you also have to manage a team (even if that is yourself) to monetize your ad traffic. There is no way to scale running your own internal ad network unless you have scores of folks to manage the marketing of your property, the managemnet of your ads, contracts, receipt of payment etc.

geosaa 11y ago

The information blocked had nothing to do with tracking and privacy. It's a page that displayed the customer's sales performance within the application itself. So it IS "totally unrelated to online privacy issues"