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there is a lot of frustration that it launched only in some countries and not in others. i see why that would be a bummer, but is it reasonable to expect that t

there is a lot of frustration that it launched only in some countries and not in others. i see why that would be a bummer, but is it reasonable to expect that they should (in some vaguely moral sense) launch everywhere in the world at once?

uvesten 11y ago
Yes, of course. Unless you're living in the past.
- tvladeck 11y ago
  I can't think of a single product / service that went live in every country on the same day. Not saying it hasn't happened, but I stay pretty current. Can you?
drzaiusapelord 11y ago
So they should delay the US launch because of bureaucratic nonsense from other nations? Which include attempts at censorship, exploitative taxes, byzantine regulations, etc? No thanks. Getting a little sick of every service coming out and then endless "NOT AVAILABLE" comments on HN and Reddit. US companies have easy and native access to US markets. That will never change. Let's stop acting surprised, especially when we're all against free trade agreements. Why doesn't Europe/EU have its own Google and its own competitve products in this space? That seems to be the real question and pressing it just results in endless downvotes from Euros offended anyone question their business culture, lack of innovation, lack of ability to compete, etc in several spaces the US does well in. An EU Google-like entity would solve all these problems. I find it hard to believe search engines and music curation services are natural monopolies.
kyrra 11y ago
The more countries you add the longer it would push out the launch date. Youtube Red required content owners to sign the new contracts to allow for ads free + offline play. Trying to get this done at a world-wide scale will be much more time consuming compared to going country-by-country and getting the required rights and contracts to launch this service. So they either have to push out the release date or do what they did. The opinions stated here are my own, not necessarily those of Google.
- tvladeck 11y ago
  i totally agree! not sure if it came through, but this is exactly the tradeoff i was hinting at

uvesten 11y ago

Yes, of course. Unless you're living in the past.

tvladeck 11y ago
I can't think of a single product / service that went live in every country on the same day. Not saying it hasn't happened, but I stay pretty current. Can you?

drzaiusapelord 11y ago

So they should delay the US launch because of bureaucratic nonsense from other nations? Which include attempts at censorship, exploitative taxes, byzantine regulations, etc? No thanks. Getting a little sick of every service coming out and then endless "NOT AVAILABLE" comments on HN and Reddit. US companies have easy and native access to US markets. That will never change. Let's stop acting surprised, especially when we're all against free trade agreements. Why doesn't Europe/EU have its own Google and its own competitve products in this space? That seems to be the real question and pressing it just results in endless downvotes from Euros offended anyone question their business culture, lack of innovation, lack of ability to compete, etc in several spaces the US does well in. An EU Google-like entity would solve all these problems. I find it hard to believe search engines and music curation services are natural monopolies.

kyrra 11y ago

The more countries you add the longer it would push out the launch date. Youtube Red required content owners to sign the new contracts to allow for ads free + offline play. Trying to get this done at a world-wide scale will be much more time consuming compared to going country-by-country and getting the required rights and contracts to launch this service. So they either have to push out the release date or do what they did. The opinions stated here are my own, not necessarily those of Google.

tvladeck 11y ago
i totally agree! not sure if it came through, but this is exactly the tradeoff i was hinting at