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This is very very disingenuous. Here are the public IRC logs for what I assume you're referring to (which is from July 2014 by the way): https://botbot.me/fre

This is very very disingenuous. Here are the public IRC logs for what I assume you're referring to (which is from July 2014 by the way): https://botbot.me/freenode/pypy/2014-07-02/?msg=17362202&page=5 https://botbot.me/freenode/pypy/2014-07-02/?msg=17362202&pag... You found a bug in an old version of PyPy. A core developer told you you might want to try a new one. No one stole your shot out from under you. You would undoubtedly be welcomed to contribute. Don't post FUD. Disclaimer: I am not a PyPy core dev but I do work closely with them.

Obi_Juan_Kenobi 11y ago
> Alex_Gaynor - simpson: import operator; operator.isNumberType is the check you want > I'll push this change quickly > Alex_Gaynor - uhh, wait the check seems to exist? I dunno, I kinda see both sides here. First, I don't think the devs were off-base at all here. They were friendly and looking to solve problems. However, they did seem to want to simply solve the problem, while Matthew did state that he was looking at this as a way to contribute. The whole interaction could have been improved with a little encouragement at the end, and possibly a recommendation of an 'easy' bug that was currently in need of a fix. It was fairly clear that there was an enthusiastic new contributor, so a little effort in this direction may have been warranted. I certainly would consider this an example of being unfriendly or unwelcoming.
MatthewWilkes 11y ago
I apologise that I mis-remembered and characterised intending to fix a bug, investigating, and finding out it was already fixed as just fixing a bug, however I believe the rest stands. The fact that I wanted to run tests and couldn't, and the team went on to why I wanted to run tests and looked to solve my problem is my complaint. Also, to be clear, I'm not trying to say the PyPy channel is unfriendly, it certainly isn't. It's just not set up to help potential new contributors get started.

Obi_Juan_Kenobi 11y ago

> Alex_Gaynor - simpson: import operator; operator.isNumberType is the check you want > I'll push this change quickly > Alex_Gaynor - uhh, wait the check seems to exist? I dunno, I kinda see both sides here. First, I don't think the devs were off-base at all here. They were friendly and looking to solve problems. However, they did seem to want to simply solve the problem, while Matthew did state that he was looking at this as a way to contribute. The whole interaction could have been improved with a little encouragement at the end, and possibly a recommendation of an 'easy' bug that was currently in need of a fix. It was fairly clear that there was an enthusiastic new contributor, so a little effort in this direction may have been warranted. I certainly would consider this an example of being unfriendly or unwelcoming.

MatthewWilkes 11y ago

I apologise that I mis-remembered and characterised intending to fix a bug, investigating, and finding out it was already fixed as just fixing a bug, however I believe the rest stands. The fact that I wanted to run tests and couldn't, and the team went on to why I wanted to run tests and looked to solve my problem is my complaint. Also, to be clear, I'm not trying to say the PyPy channel is unfriendly, it certainly isn't. It's just not set up to help potential new contributors get started.