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>I like the twitch platform, technologically You shouldn't. Twitch is still holding onto Flash. They could have really leveraged their position as the most use

by vdnkh 11y ago

>I like the twitch platform, technologically You shouldn't. Twitch is still holding onto Flash. They could have really leveraged their position as the most used streaming site to push for adoption of HTML5 streaming. They have a HLS mode, but it's only supported on Safari/Mobile/Edge.

lunactic 11y ago
afaik this is no longer true. At least for me (using Chrome) I no longer get the Flash viewer but the new HTML5 one.
- ThatPlayer 11y ago
  The player controls run in HTML5, but for me (using Chromium with no flash), videos still do not play.
jneal 11y ago
Actually, the player controls on the video recently[1] switched to 100% HTML5. And the video portion is switching over next year[2]. [1] http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/07/video-player-controls-now-in-html/ http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/07/video-player-controls-now-in-h... [2] http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/25/twitch-html5-whisper-twitchcon/ http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/25/twitch-html5-whisper-twit...
- ascagnel_ 11y ago
  Also, if you're on a browser that supports it (I think only Safari at this point), it'll fall back to HTTP Live Streaming. I've gotten it to run in a 100% Flash-free environment.
RubyPinch 11y ago
They are moving over to html5 when HLS comes, if I'm not mistaken. They are, in the meantime, settings things up to make the transition easier, e.g. moving the video controls out of the video, moving chat out of flash, etc etc
- slimscsi 11y ago
  We have been using HLS exclusively for about two years now. The flash player plays the HLS stream. We will remove flash completely in 2016.
devit 11y ago
You can do "pip install livestreamer" to install livestreamer which will automatically open the Twitch HLS URLs in VLC or another media player of your choice. Of course Twitch should support HTML5 video though, no idea why they aren't.
- bryansum 11y ago
  I'd assume because DASH is generally a newer spec, and HLS was driven by mobile usage
  - slimscsi 11y ago
    Don't confuse DASH and HTML5. DASH was announced VERY shortly after HLS (within the same year). And both of these predate modern video on the web. HTML5 video does not play DASH anyway. MSE can play the same binary format as DASH, but that format was developed by microsoft for smooth streaming first.
slimscsi 11y ago
The player is a small part of the entire platform. Flash will be completely removed next year.

by vdnkh 11y ago

lunactic 11y ago

afaik this is no longer true. At least for me (using Chrome) I no longer get the Flash viewer but the new HTML5 one.

ThatPlayer 11y ago
The player controls run in HTML5, but for me (using Chromium with no flash), videos still do not play.

jneal 11y ago

Actually, the player controls on the video recently[1] switched to 100% HTML5. And the video portion is switching over next year[2]. [1] http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/07/video-player-controls-now-in-html/ http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/07/video-player-controls-now-in-h... [2] http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/25/twitch-html5-whisper-twitchcon/ http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/25/twitch-html5-whisper-twit...

ascagnel_ 11y ago
Also, if you're on a browser that supports it (I think only Safari at this point), it'll fall back to HTTP Live Streaming. I've gotten it to run in a 100% Flash-free environment.

RubyPinch 11y ago

They are moving over to html5 when HLS comes, if I'm not mistaken. They are, in the meantime, settings things up to make the transition easier, e.g. moving the video controls out of the video, moving chat out of flash, etc etc

slimscsi 11y ago
We have been using HLS exclusively for about two years now. The flash player plays the HLS stream. We will remove flash completely in 2016.

devit 11y ago

You can do "pip install livestreamer" to install livestreamer which will automatically open the Twitch HLS URLs in VLC or another media player of your choice. Of course Twitch should support HTML5 video though, no idea why they aren't.

bryansum 11y ago
I'd assume because DASH is generally a newer spec, and HLS was driven by mobile usage
- slimscsi 11y ago
  Don't confuse DASH and HTML5. DASH was announced VERY shortly after HLS (within the same year). And both of these predate modern video on the web. HTML5 video does not play DASH anyway. MSE can play the same binary format as DASH, but that format was developed by microsoft for smooth streaming first.

slimscsi 11y ago

The player is a small part of the entire platform. Flash will be completely removed next year.