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The issue is that since I came back to this site the voting feels like reddit. People just vote down if they disagree. They are totally safe to do this becaus

by ytinas 17y ago

The issue is that since I came back to this site the voting feels like reddit. People just vote down if they disagree. They are totally safe to do this because there are enough people now that you can't tell who did it. As far as revenge down votes, that also comes with a risk. People who don't know the history will just see your revenge down vote and assume you are the jerk.

niyazpk 17y ago
As you know, in HN we all are trying to maximize the quality of the content without over-engineering the system itself. Once you add a system to monitor the votes, that will itself be a point of discussion. We want people to talk about the topic at hand and not go meta. (Besides... big change requests like these are usually turned down by the HN admins.)
- ytinas 17y ago
  Good points, but at some point the meta must be addressed. People abusing the system will either cause a ton of meta discussions (like this one) or people who don't fit the group think will simply leave. A way has to be provided to keep accountability and/or defend one's self. On sites like reddit, at least new accounts have the ability to down vote. If you don't fit the group think here you wont even get that chance.
plinkplonk 17y ago
"The issue is that since I came back to this site the voting feels like reddit." And how long have you been on this site? Your score is 17 at the point of writing and your account was created 7 days ago. So unless you had an earlier login id, (which is very possible, I am just asking) maybe you haven't been here long enough to make an informed judgment of how the voting system works? Just hang in there and use it for a while. From the HN guidelines (at http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) , "If your account is less than a year old, please don't submit comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. (It's a common semi-noob illusion.) "
- ytinas 17y ago
  I use to have an older account from several years ago (I think the site was less than a year old when I joined).

by ytinas 17y ago

niyazpk 17y ago

As you know, in HN we all are trying to maximize the quality of the content without over-engineering the system itself. Once you add a system to monitor the votes, that will itself be a point of discussion. We want people to talk about the topic at hand and not go meta. (Besides... big change requests like these are usually turned down by the HN admins.)

ytinas 17y ago
Good points, but at some point the meta must be addressed. People abusing the system will either cause a ton of meta discussions (like this one) or people who don't fit the group think will simply leave. A way has to be provided to keep accountability and/or defend one's self. On sites like reddit, at least new accounts have the ability to down vote. If you don't fit the group think here you wont even get that chance.

plinkplonk 17y ago

"The issue is that since I came back to this site the voting feels like reddit." And how long have you been on this site? Your score is 17 at the point of writing and your account was created 7 days ago. So unless you had an earlier login id, (which is very possible, I am just asking) maybe you haven't been here long enough to make an informed judgment of how the voting system works? Just hang in there and use it for a while. From the HN guidelines (at http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) , "If your account is less than a year old, please don't submit comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. (It's a common semi-noob illusion.) "

ytinas 17y ago
I use to have an older account from several years ago (I think the site was less than a year old when I joined).