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In this case they're not totalitarian though. China is a Republic, it's just a Republic with a taller pyramid than our own. You elect district leaders, who el

by hodwik 11y ago

In this case they're not totalitarian though. China is a Republic, it's just a Republic with a taller pyramid than our own. You elect district leaders, who elect state leaders and the congress, and they elect the president and prime minister. Technically, that's roughly the same system we have here with the electoral congress and faithless electors. The difference is that in the US, faithless electors are much less common than in China. But you can look here and see that there is a history of faithless electors in the US too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector#List_of_faithless_electors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_elector#List_of_fait... China's system is actually not so different from ours was 150 years ago, so they're not that far off all-told. Or, actually, in a sense even more recently when the congress decided between Bush and Gore.

saryant 11y ago
> You elect district leaders ...from a list of candidates approved by the Communist Party.
- gnaritas 11y ago
  Not so different from there, where our candidates are chosen by those from the wealthy. No access to large sums of money, no viable candidacy.
- hodwik 11y ago
  Which actually means you have more choice. In the US you generally get one Democrat and one Republican. When you have only one party, it's as though you have no parties, you get to elect from many different candidates.
  - somebehemoth 11y ago
    Look at the unrest in Hong Kong over China pre-approving candidates for political office. In a place that had democracy and is transitioning to Chinese rule it is obvious that very many people don't think they are getting "more choice" with their locked in list of candidates. I am not championing the US system (it has many flaws) but at least Democrats and Republicans have vastly different ideologies that people can choose from. That citizens from both parties tend to pick moderate candidates (that are closer in ideology) does not lessen the real choice the people are given when voting in elections.
    - hodwik 11y ago
      Looking at what China does in Hong Kong is vastly different from what China does in China. By the same token, in the States we get say in the president. The same is not true for places under the control of The Office of Insular Affairs & Puerto Rico. At least the citizens of Hong Kong get to vote. I'm not saying Chinese government is perfect, it absolutely has massive hurdles before it could be described as modern, but it's not nearly as bad as most Westerners make it out to be. A lot has changed in the last 30 years.

by hodwik 11y ago

saryant 11y ago

> You elect district leaders ...from a list of candidates approved by the Communist Party.

gnaritas 11y ago
Not so different from there, where our candidates are chosen by those from the wealthy. No access to large sums of money, no viable candidacy.
hodwik 11y ago
Which actually means you have more choice. In the US you generally get one Democrat and one Republican. When you have only one party, it's as though you have no parties, you get to elect from many different candidates.
- somebehemoth 11y ago
  Look at the unrest in Hong Kong over China pre-approving candidates for political office. In a place that had democracy and is transitioning to Chinese rule it is obvious that very many people don't think they are getting "more choice" with their locked in list of candidates. I am not championing the US system (it has many flaws) but at least Democrats and Republicans have vastly different ideologies that people can choose from. That citizens from both parties tend to pick moderate candidates (that are closer in ideology) does not lessen the real choice the people are given when voting in elections.
  - hodwik 11y ago
    Looking at what China does in Hong Kong is vastly different from what China does in China. By the same token, in the States we get say in the president. The same is not true for places under the control of The Office of Insular Affairs & Puerto Rico. At least the citizens of Hong Kong get to vote. I'm not saying Chinese government is perfect, it absolutely has massive hurdles before it could be described as modern, but it's not nearly as bad as most Westerners make it out to be. A lot has changed in the last 30 years.