> but software is about trust and I do not trust somebody like Gavin King for delivering a good language after Hibernate :) Perhaps it's just a joke, but if it

> but software is about trust and I do not trust somebody like Gavin King for delivering a good language after Hibernate :) Perhaps it's just a joke, but if it's not: sure you're entitled to dislike Hibernate and prefer other ways to talk to a DB, but it's still one of the most widely used ORM on the JVM so it may not be perfect but it is also a huge success.