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Well no that doesn't technically mean he gave up his "liberty", it just means he promised not to do it at risk of being sued for breach of contract. That's all.

Well no that doesn't technically mean he gave up his "liberty", it just means he promised not to do it at risk of being sued for breach of contract. That's all. You can't be thrown in jail for breaking an NDA.

ChuckMcM 11y ago
But you can end up in bankruptcy court. And of course if you're found guilty of violating your NDA that shows up in background checks which pretty much makes you unemployable in the US (in the tech industry at least). Basically it seems kind of silly to tightly define it as "going to jail", when the practical aspects of willfully violating an NDA can ruin your life (which may or may not be worse than going to jail depending on circumstances)
- BinaryIdiot 11y ago
  > Basically it seems kind of silly to tightly define it as "going to jail", when the practical aspects of willfully violating an NDA can ruin your life (which may or may not be worse than going to jail depending on circumstances) It was specifically referred to as your "liberty" which is incorrect. I never argued that violating an NDA could or could not result in something worse than jail time.
  - emn13 11y ago
    What is liberty if not the absence of restrictions on your choices. Clearly, the repercussions described might heavily impact your liberty in that sense. (For that matter, even prisoners have some liberties...)
  - jsprogrammer 11y ago
    It's near pointless arguing actual logical positions based on real definitions here. People will bring in their own assumptions and project those onto any words you use. When a logical rebuttal can't be made, some will just downmod you to bury your arguments (as you can see actually happened).
asw 11y ago
yea
brazzledazzle 11y ago
Pressuring everyone to add "practically speaking" to every assertion or statement is pedantry gone too far.
- BinaryIdiot 11y ago
  If you have to add "practically speaking" to a statement then I would argue your statement is poor in the first place. There is a difference in signing away a "liberty" and signing a contract. A really, really huge difference. Let's just speak clearly.
  - cwyers 11y ago
    Well, now I know why you're called "BinaryIdiot."
  - brazzledazzle 11y ago
    I can't agree. Context is almost always a sufficient indicator. If you really can't distinguish the difference between what's literally said/written and the intent I do feel bad for you but the reality is that most people can do it just fine.

ChuckMcM 11y ago

But you can end up in bankruptcy court. And of course if you're found guilty of violating your NDA that shows up in background checks which pretty much makes you unemployable in the US (in the tech industry at least). Basically it seems kind of silly to tightly define it as "going to jail", when the practical aspects of willfully violating an NDA can ruin your life (which may or may not be worse than going to jail depending on circumstances)

BinaryIdiot 11y ago
> Basically it seems kind of silly to tightly define it as "going to jail", when the practical aspects of willfully violating an NDA can ruin your life (which may or may not be worse than going to jail depending on circumstances) It was specifically referred to as your "liberty" which is incorrect. I never argued that violating an NDA could or could not result in something worse than jail time.
- emn13 11y ago
  What is liberty if not the absence of restrictions on your choices. Clearly, the repercussions described might heavily impact your liberty in that sense. (For that matter, even prisoners have some liberties...)
- jsprogrammer 11y ago
  It's near pointless arguing actual logical positions based on real definitions here. People will bring in their own assumptions and project those onto any words you use. When a logical rebuttal can't be made, some will just downmod you to bury your arguments (as you can see actually happened).

asw 11y ago

yea

brazzledazzle 11y ago

Pressuring everyone to add "practically speaking" to every assertion or statement is pedantry gone too far.

BinaryIdiot 11y ago
If you have to add "practically speaking" to a statement then I would argue your statement is poor in the first place. There is a difference in signing away a "liberty" and signing a contract. A really, really huge difference. Let's just speak clearly.
- cwyers 11y ago
  Well, now I know why you're called "BinaryIdiot."
- brazzledazzle 11y ago
  I can't agree. Context is almost always a sufficient indicator. If you really can't distinguish the difference between what's literally said/written and the intent I do feel bad for you but the reality is that most people can do it just fine.