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OTOH, if there is no reality and thus no logic, it doesn't matter if I'm using logic to refute logic; whatever contradiction it's thought to be doesn't actually
by lawpoop 11y ago
OTOH, if there is no reality and thus no logic, it doesn't matter if I'm using logic to refute logic; whatever contradiction it's thought to be doesn't actually exist.
In other words, we're attributing a truth-and-falsehood finding property to logic that it doesn't actually posses. So in the grand sense, it's meaningless, whatever it is we think we're getting from logic. It's like saying the Iraqi explosive detecting wand actually detects explosive. It's a phony tool, it doesn't work, but we trick ourselves into believing that it does.
- AnimalMuppet 11y ago> OTOH, if there is no reality and thus no logic, it doesn't matter if I'm using logic to refute logic; whatever contradiction it's thought to be doesn't actually exist. True. Your position logically refutes itself, but if logic is meaningless, that doesn't matter. But your argument sure doesn't give me any reason to believe it. You've created something that cannot be refuted, but that doesn't make it useful, sane, or convincing. If you accept this idea, then all logical discourse (or even all logical thought) is worthless, and is no different than illogic. Do you really think that's the world we live in? Do you really want it to be?
- lawpoop 11y agoIf that is the world we live in, we have no way to tell, because our experience still looks like 'this' world. And, if it is the world we live in, I guess I don't want it to be, since I think this reality could be a lot better.