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But also sounds like, for example, producers of vaccines arguing against that one study that vaccines cause autism. Just because they have an ulterior motive in

by Grue3 11y ago

But also sounds like, for example, producers of vaccines arguing against that one study that vaccines cause autism. Just because they have an ulterior motive in defending their product doesn't mean they're wrong.

ch4s3 11y ago
Every medical researcher argues that vaccines don't cause Autism. There is literally no study published in any serious peer reviewed journal that suggests otherwise.
- PepeGomez 11y ago
  You mean, except that one study which started it... It's crazy to start freaking out over something just because of one small study, especially if it's something that didn't seem to have any observable negative effects until then.
iSnow 11y ago
But vaccine producers can also point to a long list of independent studies to underline their arguments. Probably there are also some studies that fail to find any correlation between high sugar intake in kids and negative health signals. But I doubt those are very many or very thorough studies.
- kevin_thibedeau 11y ago
  By the same token, there are lots of skinny people who consume sugar with no ill effects. There isn't money to be made off of them since they aren't paying for obesity related medical services or supporting the dieting industry. Medical research isn't done on healthy people because it doesn't pull in the big grant money nor do they buy pharmaceuticals. The media doesn't report on them because there isn't anything sensational about normal people doing normal things. There is a huge confirmation bias against all sorts of "bad" foods because the people who are unaffected by them are systematically ignored.
nommm-nommm 11y ago
Vaccines are a bad example. Andrew Wakefield received money from lawyers preparing a MMR lawsuit without disclosing the fact. His research was shown to be false in multiple followup studies, he was shown to have falsified data, he lost his medical license, and The Lancet formally retracted Wakefield's 1998 paper. He also had a paper retracted by the The American Journal of Gastroenterology. The other issue was the reporting on the study.

by Grue3 11y ago

ch4s3 11y ago

Every medical researcher argues that vaccines don't cause Autism. There is literally no study published in any serious peer reviewed journal that suggests otherwise.

PepeGomez 11y ago
You mean, except that one study which started it... It's crazy to start freaking out over something just because of one small study, especially if it's something that didn't seem to have any observable negative effects until then.

iSnow 11y ago

But vaccine producers can also point to a long list of independent studies to underline their arguments. Probably there are also some studies that fail to find any correlation between high sugar intake in kids and negative health signals. But I doubt those are very many or very thorough studies.

kevin_thibedeau 11y ago
By the same token, there are lots of skinny people who consume sugar with no ill effects. There isn't money to be made off of them since they aren't paying for obesity related medical services or supporting the dieting industry. Medical research isn't done on healthy people because it doesn't pull in the big grant money nor do they buy pharmaceuticals. The media doesn't report on them because there isn't anything sensational about normal people doing normal things. There is a huge confirmation bias against all sorts of "bad" foods because the people who are unaffected by them are systematically ignored.

nommm-nommm 11y ago

Vaccines are a bad example. Andrew Wakefield received money from lawyers preparing a MMR lawsuit without disclosing the fact. His research was shown to be false in multiple followup studies, he was shown to have falsified data, he lost his medical license, and The Lancet formally retracted Wakefield's 1998 paper. He also had a paper retracted by the The American Journal of Gastroenterology. The other issue was the reporting on the study.