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Should also be noted that the link mentions that the paper contains no new attacks - the title is misleading in this context with the new paper qualifier.
by Bahamut 11y ago
Should also be noted that the link mentions that the paper contains no new attacks - the title is misleading in this context with the new paper qualifier.
- tptacek 11y agoNeither of these are valid criticisms. Yours first: it is a new paper. It was just released. It has an "October 2015" dateline. It isn't a variant of any previous paper she's released. It's also a very good paper. Second: this isn't a blog post. It's not a news site. It's a research paper. She gave it a title that follows a trope in computer science paper titles. It's silly to call it "clickbait". As someone who's had the misfortune of going toe-to-toe with Rutkowska over details of the X86 architecture, let me gently suggest that whether she knows what she's talking about and what she's trying to say [isn't] really a fight you want to pick.
- notdonspaulding 11y ago> whether she knows what she's talking about and what > she's trying to say is really a fight you want to pick Did you mean to say: "ISN'T really a fight you want to pick"?
- dfc 11y agoI am genuinely curious: Can you not figure this out by the context alone (hint:misfortune)? Or are you going "big-game hunting on HN" and nitpicking tptacek's comment?
- Bahamut 11y agoThat wasn't what I was criticizing - I was criticizing the title on HN. It previously said (new paper). While that is true, in this context, it is actually a summary of existing information. I was not criticizing the quality of information in the paper or article. I was criticizing the summary previously displayed on HN before it was changed, which suggests that someone agrees with me.
- tptacek 11y agoI'm lost. This is a new paper. What's the argument?
- Bahamut 11y agoIt's a new paper that summarizes - the previous title was "Intel x86 considered harmful (new paper)". It is very easy to draw an inference that a new revelation to consider the Intel x86 is harmful has come from that title - that was my only problem. I enjoyed reading the article. It was a narrow complaint about the title as submitted to HN - the current title "Intel x86 considered harmful – survey of attacks against x86 over last 10 years" is a lot more insightful as to the nature of the article, and less inflammatory (although I'd guess that it was unintentional).
- tptacek 11y agoIt's called a survey paper. In this case, the survey is particularly valuable, because the stuff in it was scattered across blog posts and conference presentations --- many of them by the author of the survey. Just not a great critique going on in this subthread.
- Bahamut 11y agoI think you're completely missing the point...the original title on HN did not have any of that information - it just said "Intel x86 considered harmful (new paper)". No context that it was a survey paper - initial impressions was that it was just another clickbait inflammatory article link. The moderators rightfully changed it, which makes my criticism addressed & outdated.