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I don't think it's a bunch of paranoid conspiracy theory bullshit. A lot of the items on that list are known and established facts. One of the ones that GG brin

• SomeCallMeTim 11y ago
  >Grayson covered Quinn without revealing this relationship You're repeating lies. A quote from the article I linked above: >But Grayson never reviewed Depression Quest. He once wrote half a sentence about the game, before his relationship with Quinn ever started, but that's it. Critics of Quinn and Grayson have also raised concerns about this Kotaku article [1]—it was written before they started dating. This has been confirmed directly by Kotoku and Grayson on multiple occasions. Google it. Please repeat after me: There is no smoking gun. The entire GamerGate movement is based on lies, misogyny, and anti-feminism. Find a different hashtag if you care about journalism ethics, and stop only blaming the women. The journalist, in this case, was a man, but he wasn't doxed, just Quinn! In other cases it was the female journalists who were harassed. (Not that doxing is ever the right answer! And not that I should even have to explain that...) No, GG is clearly not about journalistic ethics. It's a group that's attempting to bully people into reporting only what they want to hear -- and they find it easier to bully the women. Charming, really. Find a new group to defend, or risk being painted with a rather nasty brush. [1] http://tmi.kotaku.com/the-indie-game-reality-tv-show-that-went-to-hell-1555599284 http://tmi.kotaku.com/the-indie-game-reality-tv-show-that-we...
  • Nadya 11y ago
    >The entire GamerGate movement is based on lies, misogyny, and anti-feminism. Not true. Although an initial lie may have sparked it - a raging fire isn't started without a lot of fuel lying around to keep it burning. >Find a different hashtag if you care about journalism ethics, and stop only blaming the women. We already did that. A different hashtag would do what exactly? Nothing. Other than causing a splinter group, confusion, and easier co-opting of the tag. Or should we go back to #5GuysBurgersAndFries and #Quinnspiracy? Those were things. Those are things separate from #GamerGate (hence the different tag). >The journalist, in this case, was a man, but he wasn't doxed, just Quinn In that particular case - and while doxing is wrong - don't pretend "only anti-GG" get doxed. [0] [1] Their is also a stark contrast between how the two sides blame each other. Anti-GG has no problem blaming GG in a heartbeat while GG blames third party trolls and not the opposing side because more likely than not - it's third party trolls. >No, GG is clearly not about journalistic ethics. Which is why countless media publishers have adopted or updated their ethical standards and practices from Oct-Jan of last year? Must be some sort of non-pressured, weird, coincidental timing that they all felt the need to disclose their ethical standards. [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] Complaints to the FTC even caused Kotaku and other publishers to add disclosure for affiliate linking. [7] Unless you're saying 2-7 have nothing whatsoever to do with #GG? I find that a bit of a stretch to believe. Their is also the donations and support from 4chan/GG towards TFYC [8] which Zoe Quinn tried to lambaste and media outlets refused to cover. How women-hating of #GG to support female devs when another female dev was shouting down at them. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2tbbkg/a_final_letter_to_gamergate_from_lizzyf620/ https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2tbbkg/a_fi... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOioaFpZ3tU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOioaFpZ3tU [2] http://www.ign.com/wikis/ign/Standards_and_Practices http://www.ign.com/wikis/ign/Standards_and_Practices [3] http://www.destructoid.com/a-word-on-ethics-280654.phtml http://www.destructoid.com/a-word-on-ethics-280654.phtml [4] http://www.gameranx.com/about/ http://www.gameranx.com/about/ [5] http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/12223-The-Escapist-Publisher-Issues-Public-Statement-on-Gamergate http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/ed... [6] http://www.eurogamer.net/policies.php?view=how-we-work http://www.eurogamer.net/policies.php?view=how-we-work [7] http://techraptor.net/content/ftc-forces-gawker-make-disclosures-affiliate-links http://techraptor.net/content/ftc-forces-gawker-make-disclos... [8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fine_Young_Capitalists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fine_Young_Capitalists